Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Not true. That is why it is called dual intent, it can be for immigration or non-immigration. You can also get illegal immigrants or as you prefer to call them undocumented aliens. You have a lot to learn about your own country before casting aspersions on other countries.

this convo is priceless

PS dual intent applies to non-immigrants, not immigrants. Wipe the drool off of your slack-faced chin and move on.

Green card holders can apply for and receive US citizenship anytime after 5 years.

As opposed to denying citizenship to even children of Saudi mothers, as you do. If you did not do that, the national IQ would definitely improve. What a shame.

If they choose not to apply for the citizenship they automatically qualify for, they can simply renew the green card after ten years. If they choose not to do that, there is still no bearded beggar waiting at their bank to rob them.

Thanks for acknowledging that whole lack of restriction thing for PR's though. What a retarded comparison. Let me know if you need further schooling. I am the Green Card Jedi Master. Move along.

It’s not me that needs to brush up, you need to look up immigrant visas and dual intent. Green cards allow permanent residence (which is not really permanent as the card has to be renewed every 10-years). Go read your immigration laws and then try again.

The word "immigrant" must be confusing. Please brush up on the terms "immigrant" and "non-immigrant".

The 44 million immigrants currently in the US, half of whom are naturalized citizens and half of whom are green card holders, can go, work, live, and do what they want to do.

The non-immigrants in the meantime never, ever have to pay for or ask for permission to leave and never, ever have to worry about some bearded thief freezing their bank account and stealing from them just because their employer quit paying their salary and filed an "escape" report, as if someone can "escape" without permission from the one who filed. Your IQ is showing. Find something else to do besides taunting who you think are laid off workers.

Actually US immigrants can not necessarily live anywhere they want. Illegals cannot. Certain categories of legal immigrants also cannot when their work visa is tied to a specific job. Theoretically, they can apply to change jobs, which means another visa with a new employer, which in practice means leaving the country and often waiting years for a new visa with a new employer. You need to brush up on your own immigration laws.

Ask Ted Cruz about his hard life in America?

Dumba$$ Saudi. What makes you people so stupid? Inbreeding? Backwards education? America is made up of immigrants and those immigrants can go, live, be, own anything they want anytime they want. Go sign up for your "citizens account" and get ready to start paying your own way. hahahahaha when your electric bills start rolling in next summer.

The place is doomed to fail. Lets introduce taxes as we are struggling financially, oh lets increase benefits for doing nothing to offset the effect of these taxes.

You are only learning what all immigrants learnt about the US and it’s “multicultural’ equal opportunity work environment, just in reverse. Just ask a Mexican what it’s like to work for an American. Remember your claim that Americans contributed to setting up the Saudi system?

All that is needed here to get a peek into the Saudi Aramco work environment is to listen to what this saudi has to say about servants and hired help. This is the Saudi Aramco work culture in a nutshell and should adequately explain why we quickly learned to despise working there.

Aramco is accurately represented here in my view

We know enough. Like if we want to give the whole planet a peek into Saudi Aramco culture the best way to do it is to get an Aramco Saudi talking. You are doing a great job at clearly defining the real place of a non-Saudi employee in the context of trying to sell yourselves as a multinational company. Please continue.

The funny part of the "analysis" by the resident know-it all-Americans is how it highlights how little they know and how superficial their analysis...yet they still feel aggrieved by being laid off. You would have thought if they were any good they would have found a job by now, or started their own business...

No need at all to highlight the national IQ in a conversation discussing 4 saudis managing 2 lines of people with a dimwit comparing an airport he had to stand in line in to an airport he importantly shoulders his way through.

Mark Twain said "Never argue with stupid people. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with with experience". He was referring to KSA, the Kingdom of STUPID Arabia.

Well as long as we are only considering personal experiences, I had been flying out of Bahrain for years because of bad experiences at Dammam. Friends told me Dammam had improved so a few months ago I scheduled a trip from Dammam. Leaving was great. Coming back was something different. I had to wait 9th in line for over 30 minutes in a que. There were plenty of desks available but most men busy texting. The official directing traffic would politely direct incoming locals to any desk. There was no queue or waiting for any Saudi. They never broke stride going to a passport desk. So I can understand how Saudis believe Dammam is so good. I have not checked the passenger numbers between Dammam and LaGuardia but they must be about the same. I liked it better when the Saudis has their own queue. Now they take every available desk while the lessers just stand and watch.

No need to review surveys when my observation and comments are based on personal experiences. Better you focus on draining the swamp and rebuilding that crumbling infrastructure.

Saudis can do things themselves? Why is the floor in here flooded with stink water? Get back in here and clean it up for the next person! LOL

Everyone who has lived in Saudi Arabia has travelled extensively. Why? Because there is nothing to see, do, or buy in Saudi Arabia so every opportunity to travel is grabbed.

Please take a quick STD and come back when Dammam makes it into the top 10 mideast airport rankings. At least scratch your way ahead of the Tehran airport. Because nobody can really hear or understand what you are talking about from way way down in the bottom five.

Maybe you don't travel much, but after clearing immigration, you collect your bags and then clear customs... its not about passengers getting lost, or getting confused, although I'm sure there will be a minority of such individuals, its about personal experience of travelling through US airports compared to Dammam. Travelling through Dammam is so much more pleasant and efficient nowadays compared to JFK, that Saudis really can do things themselves. Have you built your wall yet? Or still waiting for Mexico to pay for it? Shame you cannot form US National debt into a wall, or trench, that looks like a considerable obstacle.

Arrival through customs clearance is what they track. 29 minutes, or about one STD (Standard Tea Delay).

However: Following signs and arrows can admittedly be confusing. Due to this It takes some people longer than others to navigate (but) it gets picked up in the average.

What that means is for every dimwit aimlessly wandering the airport halls their fellow passengers, clearing through at above average speed, are doing all the work to maintain the arrival KPI.

Hopefully we wont have to spell out any saudi workplace parallels right here.

To turn JFK into Dammam: If you and all the other aimlessly wandering dimwits were collected, hired, and put in charge of passenger processing at JFK with zero accountability then JFK would quickly be comparable to Dammam. Otherwise although it was a nice try you've failed miserably at making a rational or valid point here.

I believe you omitted a bit LOL Namely this important bit "As you are planning your next flight, remember that CBP airport wait times do not include time to retrieve baggage or navigate through the airport. These times should be factored in as well if you will be scheduling a connecting flight. Always consult with the airline and airport authority for additional guidance."...as I said, I based my comment on recent personal experience...

Riddle me this: How many tea breaks, how much bad service, how many rude saudis, and just how filthy do the facilities have to be to rank Jeddah, KSA the worst airport on the planet two years in a row?

Moral: Saudize an airport, you get a National Address System LOL.

Thanks for playing.

Tracking time is very confusing

LOL what a moron. The wait times for all the major airports are updated hourly and stored on the DHS website. Downloadable into excel even.

JFK, last 3 months, non-USC waitime to land and clear customs is 29 minutes. Data's available back to 2008.

Nice try Saudi. What's next? Another grand plan or magical vision?

We are really not surprised that someone who is used to shoving their way to the front of the line in Dammam would have a problem following the rules and waiting in one at JFK. Nothing new about that.

Haha- check arriving JFK as a comparison to DMM. JFK much slower...experienced both in last few weeks. Saudi doing just fine, some expats from decades ago still living in that era not the current one.

Lines are confusing when your only experience is "pushing my way importantly to the front of one"

Numbering houses and naming streets is confusing.

No optics needed to see what happens when saudis take charge and start running things their own way. They end up with successful programs like that fantastical National Address System.

We didnt even stop to wonder how the hell someone could fck up numbering houses on streets so badly.

We figure that out on arrival day when we see the Highly Skilled Creative Saudi Workforce in action, firsthand, up close, 20/20, with crystal clear optics from the moment our plane lands. It's fantastic and very enlightening when we watch it take an hour and a half for two Saudis to fully utilize their creative brains puzzling out how to (importantly) divide and direct passengers from one airplane into 2 lines for 2 other saudis to fit stamping passports into their texting and tea breaks.

So yeah - You might want to pull your head out for a few minutes and look around. Lot more examples if you need them.

You need better optics, or your vision and reasoning need a medical check as something is distorting the reality of the situation. It might be your anger at being laid off.

Accelerating numbers of exiting expats is what I see. Time to Saudize. It will be hilarious to see saudis assigned work to do rushing up and down halls dumping it in other saudi laps. Wash, rinse, repeat. Like watching a freshly kicked ant bed.

Yeah but what you see and hear is nowhere near reality, just look at all your doom and gloom predictions, none materialized...just normal attrition and hiring... you want to comment closer to home go look at GE and Baker Hughes...

Gonna need to advertise more from what I'm seeing and hearing.

Word's out globally that it's a short term sht job in a swirling bowl run by rude, impatient, psychotic floaters. Good luck recruiting.

Might be good to consider shouldering up and doing the work yourselves. I mean look how well you're managing! Hahahahahaha.....

Logon to saudiaramco.com lots and lots of jobs being advertised. All nationalities...

It was delivered very importantly

Logic on this level can only originate far down in the fog of the dull normal.

Haha- which is why US companies must advertise their positions for US legal residents before they can apply for work visas for foreign workers or foreign intercompany transfers...Ditto Australia, ditto Canada, ditto Europe, ditto KSA, UAE, etc... people still struggle between knowing the difference between local contracts and expat contracts...

I am an expat and I have been around - you can’t run a company based on nationality. That is plain stupid ! Now I will also admit that I have known pretty useless t@$) at Aramco both from Expats and Saudis. When I say useless I mean it.. some of these guys (Saudis) hardly come to the office yet receive stripes and promotions. It is just wrong. What the heck is the objective here? Run/grow an oil company or hire idiot sons’ for the sake if their last names....? That is the problem as I see it with Aramco.