The Department of Educations' College Navigator gives DeVry's enrollment numbers, but the numbers are two years old. Are all these DeVry institution's still in business? I see that some of these have really low numbers (Indiana, Missouri, Tennessee).
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=DeVry&s=all
Why not just leave & go somewhere else...what does Devry have that is so wonderful? Free coffee? Free tuition?
Yes, it sounds cruel but there at least needs to be an pre-announced 'layoff day' every four or six months. That way you could know that you if you survived, you could at least concentrate and do your job until the next round approaches. Right now it could be at any moment and the best use of our time isn't doing our current jobs, it's applying for other jobs outside the company. Anyone heard of the Sword of Damocles? Hanging over your head suspended by a small thread...that's what it's like working here
Of course we all know what is going to happen, but what we need to know is WHEN and HOW. The plan for that, if one exists, is not being communicated. In fact, the messages we get from management all talk about how our transformational strategies are working and how we'll be able to meet our planned enrollment numbers between now and next Monday when the new session begins. There is no mention anywhere about the final end game that we all know is coming, and that is what has us concerned.
...they're hiding the real plan from us ....
Who is hiding anything? Isn't it pretty obvious what will become of our campus? Look at the empty halls.
@PEl7Z8B-8niy, that is exactly the point I have been making all along. It is absolutely cruel that they're hiding the real plan from us instead of being considerate of our lives and careers. DV cares for nobody and nothing except their own senseless agenda.
staff, faculty, and students are the victims...and while it may not end well for any of them, it's better to have a soft as opposed to hard landing. Just like in the airlines...they tell you when you're going to land, and give you time to prepare. That's what should be done here.
PEl7Z8B-7jfz, this is true.
Just tell your students the campus is closing this week & that should help speed up the process.
Tired of death in slow-motion
I heard from a reliable insider source that the ultimate plan is to shut down the Naperville building entirely, which means all the DeVry Online and Chamberlain Online employees would be remote. This would make sense, considering that a high percentage of the employees work at least a couple of days from home already.
Devry Scares? what is that program all about?
@PEl7Z8B-2rfu, you definitely speak for me. For years now I have been saying, "I just want to know the real plan!" My colleagues have had many discussions on how cruel it is for HO to keep stringing us along without any hints as to what they are really intending to do. All we want is to know the target date for closure so we can figure out how to take care of our careers and families. DeVry Cares...just not enough to be concerned for our livelihood, apparently.
Employees are also stockholders...and while they might not be able to dump their stock, they can certainly redistribute their investment by moving it into something else.
@PEl7Z8B-2rfu, DeVry's name has already been made mud. But you are right that making the situation uncertain ruins goodwill between the workers and Adtalem. It also will ruin the goodwill between the parent company and unwitting students, and between the company and its smaller shareholders. I'll bet that BlackRock and other big investors already have the inside information and are adjusting accordingly. They don't want to create a panic because they own shares in almost all the for-profit colleges.
@PEl7Z8B-2rfu--They don't have the integrity to do right by the students and employees.
They're euphemisms. Companies in distress use those terms all the time. And it's not fooling anybody inside or outside the wire. But for some reason they keep using the language to see if someone bites down hard on it. Maybe they think it's working....maybe people inside the wire need to tell them that it isn't, that the process of 'rightsizing' is killing morale every time the people up the chain have to make 'the hard decisions.' You want to treat people with compassion and dignity? Announce at the next earnings meeting that management has picked a date...oh, say 12 months out, that DeVry will cease operating. No more students will be admitted, everyone goes on line, and we turn out the lights in all the buildings. That gives everyone a degree of certainty. No one has to live in fear from one week, or one session to the next. Now, everyone can plan for the future in their own way, instead of having it planned for them.
yes they have been looking for "efficiencies" by making "bold decisions" to "rightsize" the university to bring it back to "growth and profitability"
BUT
they are also not looking to liquidate the entire university today. it is a much slow and sordid process.
@PEl7Z8B-1kyn, Adtalem and JB are looking for efficiencies.
Camden:
You do have a bit of a one-dimensional way of going about this stuff. You are assuming way too much about these campus operations and their costs without knowing their gimmicks and thus coming off as clueless. The campuses being open or close is not just a function of onsite enrollments there. They have combined all staff online or onsite into one entity so for instance a recruiter sitting in a location A would also be fielding calls recruiting students for location B that might be on a different coast altogether. Supporting online population is another (huge) thing that is done by the on-campus staff.
The DeVry catalog (pp.7-14) still lists about 60 locations. How many of these campuses are losing money? And how long can these losing campuses continue to stay open before they take a large amount away from Chamberlain?
https://www.devry.edu/d/US_Catalog.pdf
Easiest way to see if they are still open is to check their academic catalog that lists all their campuses. When they choose to close them, they pull the campus from the catalog and it disappears from the website so they don't have admissions trying to recruit the newest victims (i mean students) to a closing campus.
And @PEl7Z8B-hvu, your post makes you sound like a high school kid. Do you have something more constructive to add to the thread?
Omg u r so annoying