Anything that big boy gets his hands on gets destroyed including Ph and Pp and don't forget the Altice philosophy cut to the bone with no tenderizer.
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I heard spectrum don’t want Fat Barry's I wonder why
J.M. just started working at Charter.
Fat Barry's top lieutenant bails out of ATS. Wonder why?
What message is being sent when the same managers/directors that were vigorously encouraging us to sign over to ATS are not only jumping ship, but jumping over for Charter.
I see J.M jump ship where is he now.
Jabba
They can’t afford uniforms
I still have my cable benifit
My ID card was updated to ATS when I lost my old one. Why would they waste money they don’t have to update ID’s?
Like all companies we are given a budget for tools
USA most likely owns the trucks and pretty much everything as most parent companies do.
You ask some dumb ish. Why are you still here? I’m sure spectrum is still hiring
Would guess USA is the better side as it seems to be the Parent making all the Money as we have been told that ATS isn’t making enough Money to match our pay and Benefits??? Such a joke same company same owners ... But ... USA seems to really have no direction at all Compliance Techs have had more title renames then one can mention ... so pick your poison because it seems both will end up KILLING U !!!
ATS was set up to Layoff and bypass the NyS 4 year protection ... plain and simple ... we have all be lied to from the start ... Making a separate company within a company and making ATS feel like the lesser part of the Company !!! Calling Us contractors is a slap in the face !!!! Having our work checked by the same Techs with worked with a year ago side by side !!!
I still have my cable benefit under ATS.....who lost it?!?!?
TO BE OR NOT TO BE AlticeUSA / ATS
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does AlticeUSA have the right to discharge an ATS worker?
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does AlticeUSA have the right to change the terms of employment of an ATS worker?
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why does my ID card say Cablevision and not ATS?
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why do AlticeUSA techs & ATS techs wear the same uniform?
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who's supplying the tools for ATS workers?
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who owns the trucks being driven by ATS workers?
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who pays to gas up those trucks?
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why is management claiming that we're way behind schedule on FTTH project?
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why did ATS discontinue our free cable benefit? aren't we still owned by Altice?
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when will Fat Barry retire and go away?
how much longer before this shít show ends?
Legal Distinction Between Employees and Independent Contractors
In Re FedEx Ground Package System, Inc., Employment Practices Litigation the Federal Court in
reviewing the facts of the FedEx case first reviewed the generally applicable law differentiating an
independent contractor from an employee. In that opinion Judge Miller cited the following:
An independent contractor is generally described as one who… Contracts to do certain
work according to his own methods, without being subject to the control of his employer,
except to the results or product of his work” Wallis v. Secretary, 689 P.2d at 792. The
primary test used in determining whether an employment relationship exists is “whether
the employer has the right of control and supervision over the work of the alleged
employee, and the right to direct the manner in which the work is to be performed, as
well as the result which is to be accomplished.” Id. The existence of the right or authority
to interfere or control by the employer, not the actual interference or exercise of control,
renders one an employee rather than independent contractor. Id.; Hartford Underwriters,
32 P.3d at 1151.
The right to control the manner and methods of the worker is the single most important
factor in determining a worker status, McCubbin v. Walker, 886 P.2d at 794, but isn’t an
exclusive and other relevant factors should be considered. McDonnell v. Music Stand,
Inc., 886 P.2d 895, 899 (Kan. Ct. App. 1994) (citing Jones v. City of Dodge City, 402
P.2d 108, 111 (Kan. 1965)). Other relevant factors include: whether there is an agreement
to perform a certain kind of work for a definite period of time; whether the employer has
the right to discharge the worker at any time; whether the worker must furnish necessary
tools, supplies, and materials; whether the worker is paid by the hour or by the job;
whether the work is part of the regular business of the employer; whether the worker's
business is independent in nature; and whether the worker has the right to employee
assistance and supervise their work. (5). McCubbin v. Walker, 886 P.2d at 794 (length of
contract, independent nature of business, employment of assistants, furnishing
equipment, method of payment, and regular part of business); Wallis v. Secretary, 689
P.2d at 792 (right to discharge, method of payment, furnishing equipment); McDonnell v.
Music Stand, Inc., 886 P.2d 899 (length of agreement, power to terminate, and method of
payment).
Other cases have relied on similar factors as set forth in the Restatement (Second) of Agency
§220(2):
(a) the extent of control which, by the agreement, the master may exercise over the details of the
work;
(b) whether or not the one employed is engaged in the distinct occupation or business;
http://www.na-businesspress.com/AJM/TrotterR_Web13_3_.pdf
Altice Technical Services US Corp. ("ATS")
ATS is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Altice Technical Service B.V., a 70% owned subsidiary of Altice N.V. ATS was formed to provide network construction and maintenance services and commercial and residential installations, disconnections, and maintenance.
In the second quarter of 2017, the Company entered into an Independent Contractor Agreement with ATS that governs the terms of the services described above. The Company believes the services it receives from ATS will be of higher quality and at a lower cost than the Company could achieve without ATS, including for the construction of our new FTTH network. The Company also entered into a transition services agreement (“TSA”) for the use of the Company’s resources to provide various overhead functions to ATS, including accounting, legal and human resources and for the use of certain facilities, vehicles and technician tools during a transitional period that generally ends on December 31, 2017, although the term can be extended on a service-by-service basis. The TSA requires ATS to reimburse the Company for its cost to provide such services.
During the second quarter of 2017, a substantial portion of the Company's technical workforce at the Cablevision segment either accepted employment with ATS or became employees of ATS and ATS commenced operations and began to perform services for the Company. It is anticipated that a substantial portion of the Cequel segment technical workforce will become employees of ATS later in 2017.
From the formation of ATS and up until an equity contribution was made by its parent in June 2017, ATS met the definition of a variable interest entity in accordance with ASC 810-10-15-14. The Company evaluated whether its arrangement under the terms of the Independent Contractor Agreement is a variable interest, whether the Company is the primary beneficiary and whether the Company should consolidate ATS. The Company concluded that it is not the primary beneficiary of ATS because ATS is controlled by its parent, which in turn is controlled by Altice N.V. who has the power to direct the most significant activities of ATS.
As of June 30, 2017, the Company had a prepayment balance of $19,780 to ATS for construction services, which is reflected in other assets on the Company's balance sheet.
The Company reduced goodwill to reflect the preliminary estimate of the historical value of the goodwill associated with the transfer to ATS described above of $23,101, that has been recorded as a reduction to stockholders' equity.
source: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1702780/000170278017000004/alticeusa6-30x17.htm
Are these guys still around ??? Or did they Jump ship like all the others ????
a lot of techs still have no idea what type of evil they're dealing with and yet still, see no need to protect themselves.
The moment we saw that Fat Barry & Bumblin Bob were the directly involved front men of ATS, we should've know that we were in a world of trouble!
Here's a quote from 2012 NLRB court documents:
"The evidentiary record in the instant case clearly demonstrates that Cablevision has continued to engage in the same pattern of misconduct. In this case, the driving force behind that misconduct was Regional Vice President of Operations Barry Monopoli"
source:
http://apps.nlrb.gov/link/document.aspx/09031d458204e4f8 (page 40)
Wow I just was made aware of this NLRB case !!!! Can’t believe what happen to those guys ... I have never heard of guys getting moved against their will to other shops ??? Hope the Company made good on the Courts rulings ????
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$10,000 prize to the first person to guess what the ATS count will be by year's end
It’s about 427 ATS left
I will only cover what i know. My area in shops i know of 29 gone on own free will 5 let go for low or bad numbers. An at least 7 vrp's.
Should have never signed over, no shift changes they said, the points system is messed up were gonna fix it guys they said! Well so far it's all lies, shifts got changed 2-3 months later going out with a 18 min COS for 6 points....no job is 18 mins...it's a joke can't wait for my time up in this company....it's all about there pockets no care for the guys who put the money in there pocket....sad and wasted time...