HERE'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT ABOUT "UNION DUES" GOING DOWN THE TOILET!

Here's one of the lines used by management as a "scare" tactic.

"The only guarantee is your dues. You do realize that the first thing the union negotiates is dues, right?"

The reason why the union "negotiates" dues is for accounting or administrative purposes. Essentially ALL companies show the deduction of the paychecks. The monies collected are then transferred to the union. The above, naive statement is made to look as if THIS was the MOST IMPORTANT item on the agenda. Can we be THAT STUPID? If YOU believe that, then YOU are a prime candidate for drug-testing.

That statement was made by someone in management. It was a response in a thread called "The Time Is Now", which about 10 threads below this one. But do yourselves a favor. Read it while your taking a dump. In this way, when you're finished reading it, you can flush it down the toilet, too.

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Dad, He trained at the Holiday Inn College.

"I've just taken multiple courses in labor management at college" <--- LMAO

we need to put you in contact with some brooklyn techs right now

If the technicians "get stuck" with a crap contract, then whose fault is that? If a tech can't read nor understand the english language, the language used for written contracts in this country, then you can't blame the union. Members vote yes or no on the ASSUMPTION they understood what they've have read. No arms were bent for that. No gun held to the head. If something was NOT understood, they should've asked questions. Whose fault is it? You gotta be kidding.

Stay strong Anonymous. If you've read all my threads, you have all the info you need to make an intelligent decision. Your decision to make. Know that pain comes with a price. It hurts. In due time, the pain goes away. It has too. Unless you're a seasoned technician, you have no idea of what is about to come. Do nothing and take your chances. Or..... do something and take a chance. And will "that chance" actually be painful. Hmmm.... not really. Only because you're betting on yourself. And if you know yourself pretty well, you already know YOU ARE NOT A LOSER.

And also, it's a shame this can't be a discussion between just the techs instead of Union organizers or "past employees who got out in time". I'm the one who has a stake in this. My shop votes the union in that's my career on the line. The union will be fine either way.

Why are you getting upset. I just stated a fact. And I'm not management. I've just taken multiple courses in labor management at college. It's just a fact. Dues are settled first. Hey, if I vote in a union I'm basically hiring you to represent me. You should get paid. And yeah, dues start when the contract is signed. That's why we ge stuck with a crap contract and the "don't worry, this is how the first one always goes" speech. If I get a good contract or a bad one the union gets paid. Hey, it's business. Not corporate propaganda. So own the truth. The only thing guaranteed from the start is that the union gets paid. And by the way, I love the "it's for accounting and administrative purposes" line. Oh really?! Well that's swell!

And let me add this. If "collecting" or "negotiating" dues is the union's top priorities, then YOU would assume that the FASTER they can get a contract signed, the more they collect. The sooner the better. Right?

Then again, unless YOU agree and vote "yes", there is NO contract. NO contract... no dues. PERIOD. Technicians will have union reps and lawyers at the table, as well as a technician from every depot. So, while they are at the table, the union CAN NOT COLLECT DUES. The dues YOU pay are for services rendered, or performed. Since there is no contract, the union can not perform a service. The contract signed and agreed upon describe the services to be rendered. But there is no contract. THEREFORE....... NO DUES. Think, people....... THINK!

Now, why would a company fight the collection of dues, meaning performing the deduction on your paychecks? Simple. It's all psychology.

If you knew that YOU would have to make a separate paycheck for union dues, then the onus would be on you. The word "onus" is used to refer to something that is one's duty or responsibility. YOU would have to make sure that your payment is on time. A pain in the butt. Imagine if the company never made the social security deduction for you? Another pain in the butt. Do you now get the point? And if you miss the payment, there are rules against you for that. The truth be said. But the company sees it as added inconvenience and argument to you. To get you angry for such an inconvenience. To get you pissed off. And then, to remind you of the penalties you'll incur. A simple strategy but effective. In this environment, people get pissed if they forget to fart at exactly 3 in the afternoon.

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