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Ryzen at CES 2017. Looks pretty compelling from the AMD camp.

http://wccftech.com/ryzen-ces-2017-3-6-ghz-base-clock-f4-stepping-4-0-ghz/

Ryzen Demo At CES 2017 Was Running At 3.6 GHz Base Clock, F4 Stepping Can Turbo to 4.0 GHz

Some very specific details have leaked out from CES 2017 today. I use the word ‘leaked’ because it took some sleuthing on the part of Hardwareluxx.de to get the information directly from the Ryzen + Vega demo kiosk. They were able to find out the base and turbo clocks of the Ryzen sample and they do not disappoint. This particular chip was clocked at an impressive 3.6 GHz base clock and could turbo up to 3.9 GHz.

We have already covered the DOOM demo and while that showed the actual performance of the Vega GPU, we were unable to evade the security present there and dig deeper into the contents of the PC, so kudos to the source for being able to do so. Here is the photograph in question which reveals the details in all their glory:

We can clearly see the Ryzen processor has a base clock of 3.6 GHz. We can also easily arrive at the stepping as well as the turbo clock using the identifying id given in the device manager. The Ryzen engineering sample used here is code named “1D3601A2M88F3_39/36_N” and instantly we can see that the turbo clock is 3.9 GHz (the 39/36 identifies the turbo/base clock). We can also see that the stepping used here is F3. Considering this is an engineering sample and not the final product, it’s really impressive to see it perform so well. The good folks over at Canard PC Hardware also revealed that the Ryzen F4 stepping has already been finalized and has a turbo clock of 4.0 GHz. This is absolutely great news, because the higher Ryzen is able to overclock, the more competitive it will be. In fact, at these clock rates it already has a higher clock than Intel’s Core i7-6900K which can turbo to 3.7 GHz. It is even a fair bet that if you were to put the two side by side in a gaming comparison, the Intel counterpart would lose out considering gaming applications usually rely almost completely on clock rates.

As I mentioned before in my post about Ryzen’s overclock-ability, this kind of OC performance is something you should expect considering a single core can hit 5 GHz on air. It is also something that is very significant in the grand scheme of things because while a few hundred MHz changes will not make a huge difference in gaming, they will make quite a lot of difference in rendering and compute intensive applications. That said, even at this stepping, a 3.9 GHz turbo is more than enough for most modern day games. If you really want to crank out that last bit of juice from your Vega GPU then you can go with an Intel quad-core that can hit the 4.4 GHz mark.

AMD has yet to reveal the release date of Ryzen but we expect it to happen sometime in early Q1 2017. I suspect the company is going to release them both simultaneously, to incentivize and drive an attach-rate based Vega+Ryzen demand. This also means that it has a precious few weeks to get the stepping finalized. It remains to be seen which stepping would end up in the retail product, but things are starting to look quite rosy for Ryzen. If Intel does not cut prices in response to AMD, specifically in its high end six core and eight core categories, it will start to quickly lose market share to the latter. Competition is always good and it looks like the first quarter of 2017 is gearing up to be quite interesting for the AMD camp.

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Just 16 PCIe lanes... vs 40 on Intel. How big an issue will this be for a non-gaming workstation using GPU calculations, multiple Raid controllers and NVMe SSDs etc...? Is 16 plus 8 from the chipset enough, or can we relegate the Ryzen platform to the gamers section?

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Post ID: @1rxj+LessEbK

Err, intel is still spending like there's no tomorrow especially groups like MIT! So I think things at intel are not as bad as what some of us think it is!

When AMD releases Ryzen for sale I really hope it will accept wide demand, would really like to see some competition in the market!

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Post ID: @nmc+LessEbK

You Intel fanboys are in for a serious rude awakening. No wonder.intrl share price is stuck in the thirties for a decade. You guys got all fat, obese and sluggish. And decided to invest in things like URM....hows that working out? Lol....

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Post ID: @his+LessEbK

You trolls must be new around here believing AMD with their paper launches.

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Post ID: @iac+LessEbK

http://wccftech.com/ryzen-overclocks-cpchardware-5ghz-on-air-tease/

According to Doc Teraboule, the French hardware guru, the primary problem with achieving a stable overclock on all cores had very little do with the processor itself and mostly to do with the quality of the motherboard he had. Specifically, the VRMs on the mobo were not of a solid enough build to sustain a stable OC to all cores. If a single core can hit 5 GHz on air, ignoring the effects of electromigration, then you can realistically expect cherry chips to overclock up to 3.8-4.0 GHz on all cores with a high-end cooler and a mature enough revision of the Ryzen processor. A Ryzen chip with a decent overclock will be able to give comparable performance to (and possibly even beat) Intel’s $1000 i7-6900 in optimized scenarios.

With this context in mind, the 3.4 GHz mentioned by Lisa Su really appears to be only the tip of the iceberg. You should be able to go even higher with liquid cooling but at higher thresholds, electromigration will kick in and lower the life of your brand new processor. The real question then becomes what kind of OC you can expect from your Ryzen processor without insane amounts of vcore lowering the life of your CPU. CES is coming up soon and AMD should be getting ready to do a Ryzen demo there as well and perhaps we will see some overclocking first hand.

This is very good news for any tech enthusiast waiting to go with a Zen build for next year. All this information points to the fact that we are looking at a very real AMD comeback on the compute side of things. Ryzen is not only going to be a game changer for the company in terms of gamer’s support. Games usually are not capable of utilizing a lot of threads and instead rely on high clock rates, applications like server/enterprise and rendering farms however are going to benefit from the arrival of Ryzen a lot. That is the industry where it is truly going to be a game changer, providing Intel-level performance at 1/2 the cost (assuming the rumors we have been hearing about pricing are correct).

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Post ID: @ymw+LessEbK

"With MT apps, yes! Latest samples OC'ed @ 4 GHz (All cores + HT) are even not that far from the 6950X (10C)."

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Post ID: @psl+LessEbK

Confirmed: F4 step@ 4ghz. Wow....impressive.

https://twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/817044837358780416

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Post ID: @pst+LessEbK

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3155109/computers/new-amd-ryzen-details-revealed-overclocking-crossfire-lineup-info-and-more.html

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Post ID: @icq+LessEbK

1/2 price for most of the performance. that's gonna hurt.

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