Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Skilled people need not apply.

Skills are not a job requirement.

@1pdj

nice save

@1vqd

Apparently you couldn't infer from my post that I wasn't replying to you but to OP, who was speaking in the present tense, not in the past tense.

Believe it or not, the world does not revolve around you and not every post is a reply to yours.

@1pdj

Read carefully, 'I did learn', not I do learn, can you infer the difference?

If you hate a company and still work there, then the joke is very much on you. The problem in that equation is not the company, your team or your manager, but only you. The job market for software developers is really great right now (unless your site is somewhere in the australian Outback), so anyone who hates a company and still sticks around is... well... to put it mildly... not very smart.

And yes, Intel s---s when it comes to training. There's always a budget for some nonsense, but never a budget for training. But if you have been sitting through that situation for seven years without doing anything to hone your skills, then once again, ultimately, you are to blame if you don't have the right skills to find a new job. If the company doesn't invest in you, then it is up to you to buy books and find trainings with your own money.

In the end, you are responsible for your career, and you obviously didn't take that responsibility seriously.

I will never forget how Aicha had the budget a few years ago to bring a huge amount of iCDG managers into some highly expensive resort where they all came up with what was later branded as "G5" (i.e. a bunch of improvement intiatives). G5 was then continuously sabotaged by various managers, so it ended up being a HUGE waste of money and time. But if you want a training, there is never any budget.

I did learn to pretend to understand things that make absolutely no sense at all..CUCKOO

IT spends a lot of $ for huge amounts of international travels, most IT senior managers (higher than lvl 8) travel multiple times per quarter. Bare in mind there's a lot of IT senior guys travelling international! Training, nop, Intel don't have the budget. But if its for biz class travelling, yeah go ahead. If its $ for entertainment for the Corporate folks who fly in to Asean sites, yes, IT have lots of budget for it. Unofficial motto for Intel IT, always remember to bring the corporate folks to go drinking, partying and keep them happy!

The only "training" that we were permitted (encouraged) to attend was on Intel's own crap (AKA drinking our own kool-aid). Want to learn about something external or get a certification? Do it on your own time and dollar...

Honestly, I think that this has led to Intel being so out-of-touch both technologically and in the marketplace.

Whether in or outside the US, you have to force the issue. First, choose one or more skill sets that are in need both internally and externally. Then identify the knowledge you need to acquire. If that will best occur via formal/vendor training, request it. If your manager turns it down, ask why. If you aren't satisfied, escalate it. If all that fails, ask to borrow training materials from already-trained peers and read that. Then find hands-on resources where you can apply and test your knowledge.

Good luck!

Same story in IT. They say they want you to grow and jump grade levels but the reality is they want to squish and stifle you so they can line you up like a chess pawn for the next round of layoffs. I was trapped in my grade for 10 years working for complete and total micromanaging b--ches. No matter how much the PM's in my group did- multiple exceeds, over the top workloads none of us were ever bumped a grade level. It's all a big f ing game and a big f ing joke! Horribly toxic place to work!

Sure...

PowerPoint

OP, leave after taking your 7 years sabbatical.