Every single post in this forum is disturbingly out of touch with the reality of what's going on. And understandably so because Altice reps are not saying much. Every meeting turns into union bashing and vague answers about ATS. Resulting in a whole lot of you filling in the blanks with a bunch of stupid lies that benefit you and only your views on what's going on. You find every excuse to doubt union yet call them in to help only to drop them when it counts and blame each other at the constant failed attempt to unionize. You demonized the union that never looked for you in the first place and harmonize a company with a horrid track record taking your perks and ruining lives every step of the way, just by them telling you some sweet lies they won't live up to because it's what you want to hear. You all have 101 excuses for not risking anything you have, and 102 excuses for blaming everyone but yourself. The contradictions run rampant here. As long as even one of you love and trust Altice none of you will get anywhere here. So please stop with the lies and misinformation. Stop pointing fingers at everyone but yourselves at the situation. None but maybe a handful want union and that's not enough. Your all deeply divided and that will not change as life no as selfishness runs rampant. What helped Brooklyn was timing. Politicians were looking to shine for votes and Brooklyn was the perfect avenue for it. But don't think for a second it's over for Brooklyn because it's not. Once that contract is up they will be in for a losing fight. Because the fact of the matter is Altice plans cannot be stopped. Deep down each of you know this to be true. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Most you can hope for is a package if not start making plans to move on or accept the situation presented to you. None of you are about unity in the face of oppression never were. Many of you find pride in working for yourself doing your best on your own expecting to reap the awards of your lone efforts because that somehow makes you feel important and worthy of company recognition. Never realizing in the end your just a means to an end for profits in stockholder pockets. Easily replaceable. Your the same ones who think those that don't work as hard as you are the ones who want union and shouldn't be here anyway. lol it's crazy what we tell ourselves in order to feel valued. In the end you will be on the same unemployment line as those you condemned simply for making more money than Altice wants to pay you period.
So please, Oakland don't fool yourselves your not voting union like every other depot. Take your package if your lucky to get one and keep it moving. The carrot on the stick is you convincing yourselves and the union you'll get this done. That being said let clear some things up. Union can't stop Altice plans not by a long shot. Union can't tell a company how to run itself. All Altice will do is drag its feet much like the Dolan did for years before you even see a contract. That means many of you won't even stick around for such a fight being as how you have families to care for. Furthermore if you even make it to contract it will be a different contract from Brooklyn it might be even worse because your pretty much the only depot that got that far you have no leverage. Brooklyn by the way will be screwed and in a much worse situation when their contract is up. Altice has zero plans to bring them over to ATS once Altice USA is no more.
Also to clarify the biggest rumor floating around ATS is not a contracting company you will not be paid by the job or contracted out. Your pay will be hourly with bonus incentives for quality and amount of work done. ATS will have contractors of its own you will be ATS inhouse techs. You may from time to time help other companies run build out their own fiber but that is it. Most of you will start out at low pay because it's a new company in time bonus incentives may be phased out as pay scales balance out and depending how the company is doing.
You have one chance and one chance only to join ATS it's now or never. Reason being Altice is obligated to offer current employees a chance but it's not something they want. For this reason senior techs are being offered packages. They don't want or need the best. They want cheap labor. They've also changed the bonus sign on package not sure to what my understanding is one of them has been completely removed so now you have less options. Those who decide to stay with Altice will not have a job once Altice closes down. You will not have a chance to come over because by that time all positions will be filled.
Union can't do anything to deter any of this. And most definitely can't save your job if Altice doesn't need you. So do yourselves a favor stop wasting unions time and money with your rhetoric that we all know is hollow. Most of you are content to just have a job until you have no job so just stfu about asking what union can do for you. Unless your talking about yourself which is exactly what union is. What can you do for yourself sounds more like what your asking. If so do what you've always done think only of yourself and to hell with everybody else.
We complain about lies from the company and lies from union reps but from what I constantly read here most of you seem content to just lie to yourselves just fine. All the b--ching and infighting in the world ain't stopping Altice from prospering and moving forward with plans with or without you. So the real question is what are each of you afraid of? Because whatever it is that has you going back and forth and blaming everyone but yourselves is fear.
You can't stop what's coming. You either join them and take what's given. Or find a new line of work. Very simple. Reality is a b--ch. But let living a lie can leave you completely f---ed in the end. Like a jellyfish in the sand.