Thread regarding Altice USA (Cablevision) layoffs

Oakland can get this done!!!

I'm a fellow technician out of the Oakland office and I'm fairly confident we have the mental fortitude to vote the union in. I feel Oakland has a couple advantages over other depots. The Oakland Depot isn't very big, as of right now we have around 87 techs with the average tech having 15+ years of service, and only a handful of new hires with less then 3 years experience. From what I have read on here, hilber and his chronies tend to manipulate and flip the younger techs, the guys that don't know any better and are just grateful to have a job.

I believe the key to success in this ordeal is to educate the technicians that have not attended a union meeting instead of alienating them. Sure a tech will sign a card but as we have seen with Piscataway and the Bronx, it doesn't always equate into a yes vote. I think what happened is very simple, a tech signs a card with the idea he's going to vote yes, never attends a meeting, never becomes educated and now has to sit and edure hilbers rhetoric a couple times before the vote. In his mind, where was the union?? Where are all the facts for the union??? He never once takes any responsibility for being uneducated regarding what the union can and cannot do. He wanted someone to spoon feed him the facts and that never happened so he voted no once hilber told their side of the story.

This cannot happen and we're trying to talk to as many people as possible in Oakland, telling them the facts. We also feel very strongly about showing open support for the union by wearing bracelets (were in the process of getting) which I feel will be the driving factor to our success. A bracelet tells everyone where you stand. It creates a divide between the pro and anti guys which there needs to be. You need to see where people stand, to many people hide behind anonymity, they say one thing and do the opposite. I see a tech in the hall, never have really spoken to him before, but I see we both are wearing bracelets, that empowers us.

You have to be united prior to the first meeting with hilber, which for Oakland is happening sometime next week. I would hope that a presence of techs wearing bracelets would s--- any confidence he has right out of him, a demonstration to management that we have to endure your talks but it's going in one ear and out the other.

You need a voice in a Depot or a leader, someone that can empower others and explain to them what's on the line. Let's face the facts, with every Depot voting down the union, it becomes more and more difficult. I feel like this will be our last shot at this and if we fail, I see all the momentum coming to an end. I'm sure hilber and monopoli aren't concerned the least with our petition to vote, why should they be, right? Well they should!!!

Wish us luck!!

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Post ID: @OP+LM6SWHf

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for anyone interested in reading the court case for the 6 techs that were kicked out of the Bronx shop...

see here --> http://apps.nlrb.gov/link/document.aspx/09031d45822171ec

MESSAGE TO OAKLAND SHOP: Stay strong & be public

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Post ID: @2dzd+LM6SWHf

Great question to ask Hilber regarding the meter strap. In regards to what is legal and what isn't depends on the reason given for the action in some cases. Any action if taken probably won't be immediate either. Any good lawyer will confirm these real life truths. If your human you will eventually miss something and it could be used against you. I am only stating a truth. Not trying to scare or upset anyone. I also am not saying it will definitely happen, I can not see the future. Only trying to point out possibilities for consideration in a situation that has emotions tied to it. Emotions are both good and bad.

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Post ID: @1iie+LM6SWHf

No breakaway on the vex meter is a very good point. I wonder what osha would say

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Post ID: @1zdt+LM6SWHf

Illegal means nothing in regard to the Labor Board !!! I believe 6 guys got moved from the Bx shop a few years ago because Management had them pegged for Union people ... So if wearing the bracelet makes you feel something then by all means wear one .. but at the end of the day wearing doesn't mean a thing it's how you vote that counts !!!!

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Post ID: @1hse+LM6SWHf

Re : to the last 2 comments below me,

Both scenarios are 100% illegal for the company to take retribution for showing support for a union, you have the right to organize. You guys need to get educated!

In regards to the bracelet, very good points but As far as I know, they are rubber. Does the strap on our vex meters that we have to climb with regularly have a breakaway?

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Post ID: @1vza+LM6SWHf

One last thought: Wearing a bracelet could indicate to anyone paying attention that you are not ATS material and should not be offered the chance to move over to it.

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Post ID: @1gfp+LM6SWHf

Wearing a bracelet may cause you to not be offered a raise for voting no.

There's a reason in a battle that a sniper looks for the guy wearing officer insignia and shoots them first.

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Post ID: @1eva+LM6SWHf

Hope the bracelet is not conductive. If you guys are really talking to each other and what you are saying is really having an effect than a bracelet will do nothing more than tell the company who isn't really thinking about wearing one. In essence you are telling someone that you are going to hit them before you throw the punch (figuratively) - usually not a good idea in general. Make sure that each person wearing a bracelet has documentation that the bracelet meets OSHA standards for non conductivity, and that it has a built in breakaway so that if it snags on something it will not be the cause of an injury. It also does not guarantee how each individual will vote when the time comes. Just sharing a thought.

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Post ID: @1gce+LM6SWHf

That post sounds like someone from management. Lol "I know you hate management, but they do what they say"??? Sounds kinda funny to me.

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Post ID: @rdw+LM6SWHf

Don't fall for the lies. It's really common sense. Have you ever seen an election debated with just one side telling a story? Well that's what's been happening at every garage in the Cablevision footprint. If Hilber wants the shops to make a conscience decision on what's best for them then have both sides present. Force feeding one side is how you win over people who don't educate themselves on how this process works. It's unfortunate that even after Dolan pretty much abandoned ship and clearly lied about his intentions that people are still willing to put there futures in someone else's hands rather than their own. Having a union allows you to have a say. Read read read read. Look at all the anti union hatred across the nation and educate yourselves and start around the early 1900s and ask yourselves why all the resistance? There's a reason people.

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Post ID: @ial+LM6SWHf

Different circumstances? Right... Just a new bunch of guys who don't know their own history. Good luck with that.

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Post ID: @crj+LM6SWHf

Different circumstance totally different now anonymous you got bribed I hope your right get that union in

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Post ID: @mbo+LM6SWHf

Good luck Brooklyn, I mean Oakland. You guys just don't get it. Weren't any of you there the last time you were union?? Why don't you find someone who was and ask them why they decertified????

Go ask the union what happened last time. You talk about facts, look to past actions for truth. I know you hate management, but they do what they say. The union says a lot, but can never guarantee a thing. And division is not a good thing. Brotherhood is not dividing the shop. If everyone isn't all in then no one should.

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Post ID: @oqd+LM6SWHf

You guys got this! Set the momentum for everyone else!

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