Thread regarding ITT Educational Services Inc. layoffs

Itt student

I have read just about every comment here and I look at most with some form of disappointment. What seems to be getting lost is the fact that over 4,000 hard working students are having to start over. The time and effort put forth should be admired and respected because it takes a lot of inner drive to get off from work and go perform to your best ability although tired and burned out. Compared to some of the students graduating from public colleges and universities with no hands on experience, graduate and still are lost with no job in sight. I am not blaming the students who attend major universities, whose debt double ITT's, but the major universities greed and padding the curriculum just to feed that greed. For the ones that say ITT's degrees are a sham, I know some very intelligent students who graduated and went on to get their Masters while working in their field of study from ITT, I know some whom went on to work for fortune 500 companies and are doing well. Every instructor that i had the privilege of getting to know expected you to do your best and taught their classes in that manner. These were instructors whom worked during the day and stayed till 11 pm and sometimes a little later (Mrs Schubert - I see you). They actually cared whether or not you graduated.

Before I end this little rant, I am one of those students. I have 6 certifications and studying for my last 3; CISSP, Red Hat Linux, and CEH. I work in the field of study that I attended ITT for. I learned a whole lot more than some of the graduates from major universities. I put my hands on some of the applications that a graduate from a major university will not see for a couple of years after graduating. Although I have to pay back that federal loan, it's worth it to invest in myself and learn from some of the best instructors and work alongside some of the brightest students.

The prior students that you read about that are complaining because they graduated and could not find a job, did not have the drive to get a job. If they wanted it that bad, then they would have done the extra work to get it. That also applies to the graduates from a major university. RIP ITT!

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You are most likely the exception to the rule. Most ITT students were looking for a quick degree and did the absolute minimum to acquire it. After awhile, you just get numb to the apathy. I know this from 20+ years of teaching at ITT. Good luck with your future. You'll do well. Do yourself a favor and skip over the easy certs and go for the big daddies likes RHCE.

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Post ID: @znq+JhxpqSX

There were some good instructors and some successful students. Those that succeeded at ITT did so in spite of the awful curriculum and mismanagement. Imagine what those same students could have achieved if they had been at a better school!

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Post ID: @vxv+JhxpqSX

To those that are thinking of responding to "milfmoney28@gmail.com" look at the address. "MILF" is a sεxual reference and "money" explains it. Its a fake address, don't be s---ered in, she (or he) is not a student, but an online sεx related scammer. Just warning ya, you don't want them getting your email address.

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Post ID: @kfk+JhxpqSX

The original post is a bit suspicious but in any case it rather ignores the fact that the great students who did well at ITT would often have done well at many other educational establishments. They were not the problem. The problem is the number of other students learning little but still "passing" in order to make up ITT Tech's effective quota system.

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Post ID: @jxc+JhxpqSX

now start paying your school loan :)

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Post ID: @ypb+JhxpqSX

Oh crap ..wrong chat room..I thought this was the girl on girl room.....

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Post ID: @btx+JhxpqSX

To "I was a nursing student at ITT. " You should post your message as a new thread. Your post is getting buried here. Start a new thread, you will get some responses.

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Post ID: @pas+JhxpqSX

Why does the person who posted this thread keep using the phrase "major university?" Seriously, even a minor university has vastly higher quality hands-on work than ITT-Tech, at much less tuition cost. This story reads like something posted by a corporate shill from ITT-Tech. Thought this phase was over, having to listen to BS propaganda. ITT-Tech closed, it really happened, its done.

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Post ID: @loq+JhxpqSX

Lots and lots of BS here. Debt at major universities double that of ITT Tech? Spreading lies about tuition at a time like this, when you are pretending to sympathize with the 40,000 students seeking truthful information, is despicable. ITT-Tech had some of the highest tuition costs anywhere, with the exception of a few elite private universities. Fortunately, tuition costs are posted for everyone to see clearly, on every school website, and your lies are not going to fool anyone.

Who do you think is your audience here? What is your motivation for posting this crap? You take what appears to be a feel good, personal success story and weave into a pack of lies and misleading BS.

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Post ID: @tkl+JhxpqSX

Success stories go down easy. But your understanding of what happens at major universities, in tech and science fields, and engineering fields, is terribly, terribly incorrect. I call BS on this whole story because of that. No hands on work? That is so completely false. Lots and lots of labs are taking place at universities. Seriously, no comparison between quality of labs at reputable community colleges and universities compared to what happened at ITT-Tech. You are not helping out those 40,000 students who need to start over by posting BS like this.

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Post ID: @iqj+JhxpqSX

This is a forum for laid off employees, what do you expect will be discussed on here. No one is discrediting the students from this terrible situation at all. We are all in a runt as well!

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Post ID: @xym+JhxpqSX

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Man--I agree, over the years I had some really good students and a handful of really amazing students---they could do anything with gusto. Some projects were extremely creative & very well done. Their eventual employers said the same things. These were not rich kids, some were actually a bit down on their luck, but were really driven. Man o Man---why didn't ITT concentrate on mainly bringing in these folks? It's almost like they went completely opposite. Arrrrg.

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Post ID: @yxh+JhxpqSX

I taught at ITT and later held a management position at a campus and I attended every single graduation ceremony because of students like you. I attended 40 graduation ceremonies over the years and loved every one of them. The students would be so excited to introduce me to their families at the ceremony and would tell me that I was the reason they made it to graduation. I would turn it around and tell them that they did all the work, they had study sessions that went all night, they sacrificed time away from their families and put in the time and work to make it to graduation.

I had one student a year ago that I had for his very first class and he was middle age and so scared about starting school at his age. He was also a veteran and had some bouts with PTSD and depression. He was so overwhelmed the first night that he came to me on the class break and told me he may drop. I talked to him for a few minutes and told 1 things - 1: the class only meets 11 times, you can do anything 11 times like work out 11 times or give up red meat 11 times.

Then I had him midway through his program and had to take Stastics and he was going to

Drop. I gave him another bit of advice. 2: I told him that he has seen some sh-- while he was serving in Iraq lthat was really awful and he has carried his fellow soldiers off the ground during a war he has been and i told him all those amazing things he did that he can handle statistics,!!

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Post ID: @nfm+JhxpqSX

With your winning attitude you will do well wherever you go, ITT included. You have a good future, since you'll make one for yourself--wish there were more like you in the halls of ITT, it would still be open

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Post ID: @vpi+JhxpqSX

For reading all these emails, you sure are ignorant of the facts behind closing ITT down. Glad you are doing so terrific, though.

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