Does anyone have any information about your this? Many sources have said that the nursing program may be the only program to remain open because of the revenue and success rates. Any info?
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I'm sure it's just another 'Itt warrior' trying to make themselves feel better. Not sure why any of them are so happy. None of them will be getting their money back. Their page is misleading and extremely biased. No one should listen or take advice from these people. They're a joke and so is their page and what they stand for.
I'm messing with you and enjoying it enormously. If you haven't figured out what a scam ITT is then you have no business criticizing anybody.
"Cheating your way through one test is not going to suddenly validate a sham degree. I graduated in 2009 with IT and I've acquired almost a dozen third party certifications since then, do you think any employer cares? ITT is the worst diploma mill in the country. I dare you to apply for medical school and list ITT, would be good to hear what they would say about it."
My god are you stupid! Do you even realize what is required to sit for the NCLEX and how there is ZERO possibility of cheating on this exam? You graduated in 2009 with IT, and therefore have zero clue what the hell you are talking about here. You have to apply through the Board of Nursing to even get authorization to test. Once you do sit for the exam, there is no possible way to cheat. The test can range from 75 to 285 questions, and will have varying topics covered. The very notion that you think someone could cheat his/her way through an exam and fool the BON, is absurd. I can assure you that a friend just finished her MSN, and has been accepted into a few Nurse Practitioner programs....which is as long and as difficult as her path would have been had she attempted medical school. Your cheezy IT degree, is not even in the same realm as nursing and to compare the two, shows what an imbecile you are.
Cheating your way through one test is not going to suddenly validate a sham degree. I graduated in 2009 with IT and I've acquired almost a dozen third party certifications since then, do you think any employer cares? ITT is the worst diploma mill in the country. I dare you to apply for medical school and list ITT, would be good to hear what they would say about it.
Comment in prior post;
"A large campus with multiple multistory buildings has less space than an ITT having a handful of classrooms? Yeah sure. space can't be allocated sometime during the day/evening for more nursing classes."
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It isn't so much a space issue as it is a cost issue for my college. Students are charged $46/unit whether you are majoring in Nursing or Business. However, the regulatory bodies limit the faculty to student ratio, often to 10 students or less to a single faculty member for nursing. Not true for business where for example I've had up to 45 students in one of my classes. So, from a cost recovery standpoint you can begin to understand why nursing programs are impacted in our community colleges. Yes there is a need. No we won't expand because for nursing students we are way below a "break even" position,.
I am currently a nurse educator in one of ITT's Breckinridge Schools of Nursing. I have been grateful for the opportunity to assist aspiring nursing students to obtain their RN license. Some of the posts that I have read regarding ITT and its nursing program are rude and unfounded.....I am going to guess potentially by some "former" nursing students who were unsuccessful in their endeavors. Here are some things to keep in mind: regardless of the nursing program - all graduates are required to take a licensing exam (NCLEX) administered by the respective state boards of nursing. The NCLEX is exactly the same across the entire United States so whether you graduate from an Associates or Bachelor's degree program you take the same test. So - ITT does not regulate the end product when it comes to being a registered nurse. Secondly, the nursing education provided through ITT is also regulated by each state board. The schools must submit their curriculum for each nursing class and each state board must sign off or make recommendations for changes/updates, etc. Again, for you "ney-sayers" this is a rigorous process put in place to make sure the quality of the education presented is uniform across all nursing schools in each state. Thirdly, the nursing education presented and received is only as good as the educators delivering the information and the students' willingness to put in the work regardless of what school you attend. I have been a registered nurse for 32 years, and am still a practicing bedside nurse (fulltime) while teaching fulltime at Breckinridge School of Nursing. I am proud to say we have met and exceeded the state board requirements for pass rates in our state & that all of our graduates are employed - some prior to graduation! I also have a daughter in the program currently who is 4 quarters from graduation so I am truly hoping that the DOE spares Breckinridge School of Nursing (at least until current students are taught out).
To those who would like to "judge" - be quiet until you know ALL the facts!
at the community college where I teach we have to turn down around 80% of the applicants due to space limitations
A large campus with multiple multistory buildings has less space than an ITT having a handful of classrooms? Yeah sure. space can't be allocated sometime during the day/evening for more nursing classes.
"Atlantic Union College in MA is one of them. They were able to work with the DOE and allow students to graduate. There was a teach out plan put in place for the nursing students in that school."
Use caution comparing Atlantic Union College with ITT-Tech. AUC had regional accreditation with NEASC before that was taken away. ITT-Tech does not have regional accreditation, and advises all students from the start that credits are unlikely to transfer.
Sorry to rain on your parade, and hopefully something works out for students with only a few classes left.
Take Wikipedia with a grain of salt, but its a place to start. Then on Tuesday morning "let the wild rumpus start!" (Maurice Sendak, Where the Wild Things Are)
Atlantic Union College, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Union_College
.....The AUC board of trustees undertook negotiations with Washington Adventist University with the aim of establishing a branch campus of WAU on AUC's former campus.[12] However. AUC President Norman Wendth announced in July that the plan had not gained approval from the Massachusetts Department of Education in time for the Fall 2011 school term. All 179 faculty and staff at AUC were laid off on July 31, 2011.[13][14] Only one of the 450 enrolled students failed to find a new college in time for the fall semester, while all nursing students transferred to Mount Wachusett Community College in Gardner, Massachusetts.
THANK-YOU! (THE TEACHER)
There have been other institutions that have lost accreditation, that remained open through bankruptcy and allowed classes to graduate. Atlantic Union College in MA is one of them. They were able to work with the DOE and allow students to graduate. There was a teach out plan put in place for the nursing students in that school.
Sad situation relating to a nursing student. http://wsbt.com/news/local/itt-tech-south-bend-students-worry-school-might-not-re-open-after-labor-day
Comment for last poster. You are the idiot. This isn't about IIT. It is about students attempting to improve their skills and knowledge. Nursing programs in my area are heavily impacted, meaning that at the community college where I teach we have to turn down around 80% of the applicants due to space limitations. As a consequence students are unable to take advantage of our low cost ($46/unit) and are forced to go to schools like ITT Tech if they want to have a career in this licensed field. And yes, the license is the key to entry into the field, not the school. So wake up and quit showing your ignorance.
Um if ACICS goes under (which it will, mid sept) Itt will have 18 months to get another accrediting body. That's directly from DOE. ACICS is going down and wants to take Itt tech with them. The fall of ACICS is inevitable. Itt can still keep its head above water by shutting down less profitable campuses.
There are NO announcements of any school closures at this time!!!!
If you were dumb enough to pick ITT for nursing you deserve everything you get. This place is closing down and your cracker jack box nursing degree and 6 figure debt will be a source of amusement for hiring managers for years to come.
11 hours ago by Anonymous | Post ID: @JeCBEig-evn
WELL...LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU JACK WAGON! ANY "DUMB" PERSON KNOWS YOU MUST PASS THE NCLEX TO BECOME A NURSE! I AM 49 AND PROUD TO BE AN LPN FOR 23 YEARS, I CHOSE ITT BECAUSE, FOR ME, IT WAS THE QUICKEST WAY TO BRIDGE FROM LPN TO RN. TYPICALLY, I DO NOT RESPOND TO IDIOT COMMENTS, BUT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT NURSING SCHOOL! I LOOK FORWARD TO CARING FOR YOU AFTER SOMEONE PUNCHES YOU IN THE THROAT!
"Hoping Albuquerque will be spared"
If ITT-Tech doesn't get squared away with DOE, then gov student loans -- Title iV funds -- will not be available to any students. That is the issue at hand right now -- gov money availability. Accreditation issues -- such as ACICS shutting down many nursing programs for under 60% NCleX pass rate year after year -- is still in the future.
So not sure how "sparing a campus" can be accomplished.
The time for picking and choosing campuses to stay open or close was years ago. Enrollment has been tanking for years. Yet Modany closed very few campuses in that time. Poor management on all fronts.
Yes, I have heard that Albuquerque is the exception to the rule! Too bad Modany and crew did not come study that model, and try to apply it elsewhere.
Albuquerque Itt tech has a 90.63 nclex pass rate. I'm hoping they'll be spared.
HOPE is the last thing to be lost. All of us need to wait until the official posting from HQ is released either tomorrow or Wednesday. Nursing is variable and depends on each State Nursing Board, let's see
State boards of nursing require an 80-85% NCLEX pass rate for a school to continue in good graces. 70% may be OK for ACICS but it is considered a failure everywhere else. Schools that fall below benchmarks set by the BON are eventually shut down. Several ITT nursing schools have been closed because of this. If you want a glimpse into the quality of ITT nursing programs, read some of the minutes of the BON. It will curl your hair.
"The ITT warriors were smart enough to shut off the valve of wasted taxpayer money. "
The ITT warriors didn't do any such thing. The train left the station before the ITT warriors even knew there was a train.
I'm a careers director out west and honestly no employer has ever said UGH we don't want this degree. Every single nursing student who passed their NCLEX was hired shortly after from hospitals to hospices. Yes, ITT Tech p--ped on their students, faculty and staff but employers also know the degree is accredited. I've talked to approximately several hundred small to large employers in my all years at ITT Tech. Just on Friday I received three new job orders. Your degree is still accredited, no employer "tosses it in the trash." Many ITT alumni are managers - because corporate is garbage doesn't mean the students and grads are. I doubt ANY program will be safe unless they can fork up 152 million in less than 20 days now.
Caution when using that "ITT-Tech ACICS student achievement outcomes" website at https://www.itt-tech.edu/achievement/ !!!
This info is not always correct, since it comes from ITT-Tech (ITT-Tech screws up or deliberately lies). Incorrect student outcome data is one of the reasons that ITT-Tech is out of compliance with ACICS at this time!
State Nursing Boards are much more reputable! Do your homework! Call your state nursing board!
Links for ITT Tech NCLEX pass rates, for individual campuses, are here https://www.itt-tech.edu/achievement/
I believe the posted value is averaged over past three years, first time test takers.
Canton, MI 70% thumbs up
Jacksonville, FL 27% thumbs down
Everything is not just black and white. Some ITT Tech programs in nursing have good results, some don't -- it depends on the campus. Facts! Look at NCLEX pass rates. Some campuses have under 40% several years in a rows, some do much better. ACICS accreditation looks for 60%. National average is over 80%.
Haters, what are you wasting our time for.
No one can honestly say these issues DOE and ACICS have with ITT-Tech are completely due to ITT TEch Warriors, whether you like that group or not. Read ALL the info on the DOE blog, and all the documents that have links to them. No single group gets the credit or the blame.
If you want facts, look at the nursing board websites for your state and see what they say about your school.
I assume you're an Itt tech warrior? Lol.
If you were dumb enough to pick ITT for nursing you deserve everything you get. This place is closing down and your cracker jack box nursing degree and 6 figure debt will be a source of amusement for hiring managers for years to come.
The nursing programs at ITT s--- just as bad as all the rest. The ITT warriors were smart enough to shut off the valve of wasted taxpayer money. The results of this diploma mill speak for themselves and the only stupid people are the ones still defending it.
I do hope all of you are able to get your nursing careers in order and succeed.
But, yikes, saying stuff like "I just feel like Itt Warriors have some vendetta against Itt because most of them were too stupid to pass" and "These illiterate people just want to see the school go down so they can feel better about not being able to pass" does not do your intelligence justice.
This attitude does not exhibit characteristics I associate with nurses: compassion, scientific analysis of data to come to accurate conclusions, ability to see another's point of view.
I just feel like Itt Warriors have some vendetta against Itt because most of them were too stupid to pass. One guy said he couldn't even pass his exit hesi. I'm sorry but if you study you'll pass. Most of their posts have spelling errors. These illiterate people just want to see the school go down so they can feel better about not being able to pass. Period. Not sorry
Sorry, but everything is tied into the same corporation and same OPEID's. Can't pull them apart. Nursing will die on Tuesday as well.
I'm from the canton campus as well. Going on 5th quarter.
Oh nursing student here plz keep me posted and I'll do same on my school
I have heard this directly from the Canton MI nursing school. They told me they think the nursing school will be spared and that classes will continue due to the success rate. It is the only campus in MI that would stay open. I am slated to start classes the 13th, and they said to still plan on attending. I had spoken to them on Friday regarding this.
I sure hope so with only one quarter left. Where did you hear this from.
God I hope so. I'm a student and I'm praying on it. I don't know that this is true though because on the Itt tech warriors Facebook page some students have said their school has closed including nursing programs and they were not offered a teachout and no agreement was made with another school. All we can do is hope and pray.