http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/41787-vernee-snapdragon-830-phone-in-may-2017
Looks like ramped and in production, gives credibility to 7nm and 5 mm schedules at TSMC!
Looks like management transitions in TMG and LTD, ACT, and URM hires aren't good for leadership and execution.
@JJuIjq2-2eke Test your wits or prove what a retard you are!
Why did Intel do 14+ and 14++?
Why is there a Kaby and Coffee with nothing more valuable than found to 10nm after the first tick tock products.
Foundry 14nm so good why no customers?
Lol. You guys just keep lying . Tsmc """10nm (TM))"""" is not even as advanced as intel's 14nm. Look at gate and fin size. Their """7nm (TM)""" will be like Intel's 10nm.
http://wccftech.com/tsmc-10nm-volume-production-begins-2016-7nm/
You guys are like the dummies who buy 1700AC router thinking you will get 1.7Gb/sec on a speed test to your laptop because you are gullible to advertising.
@JJuIjq2-1msx You are the wit! You have been reading too much Circuit koolaid. Do you know why there is Kaby and Coffee and for the first time ever Intel has to do 14+ and 14++, LOL
TSMC already has yield on 7nm so what do you want to say now?
Intel has had the process lead for a long time.
It hasn't helped us in ICF.
It hasn't helped in mobile - Atom phones are cancelled and modems are done on TSMC.
The lead is a moot point if your products s---.
The overwhelming trend is for computers to move away from desktops and laptops, where Intel is dominant, towards mobile computers like smartphones and tablets where Intel has no traction. There is less and less reason to own a desktop or laptop with each passing year.
@1msx- Why do you continue to drink the kool-aid?
@1msx - I beg to disagree, pls read:
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/6192-tsmc-16nm-10nm-7nm-5nm-update.html
Although TSMC 10nm is not as good as Intel 10nm, it is certainly better than Intel 14nm, which is the current node in production. Moreover, Intel completely loses the lead after 2016/2017 since TSMC will already be ramping 7nm by the time Intel gets to 10nm. At 7nm/5nm, the gap widens even further.
Why does some nitwit post this same fake news every day?
TSMC is nowhere near 10nm. They will soon have ""10 nm (TM)"". It is somewhere between intel's 14 and 22nm process. Don't be gullible.
@1oqf - BK has been clueless before, during, and after ACT. He is just a clueless bozo as is his hired hatchetman Murthy.
@rxx URM's themselves didn't kill anything. The focus on them and diversity instead of winning in the market certainly did though. And yes, ACT definitely gutted things all over the company. I bet BK is still clueless as to just how bad things are after ACT.
URM and ACTs is killing the cadence at Intel.
It was once said that Moore's Law won't end because of a physical limit but an economic one.
Intel trying to develop customer 22, 14 and now 10 and 7nm with singular focus on enabling x86 is busted. It was the correct strategy in the 90s and early the past decade, but this small ARMy and the little smartphone moved the economies of scale and successes to the foundry.
Today Samsung and TSMC have development and factories that tower over Intel's small effort in Hillsboro, what Intel calls HVM is like first phase of a five phase 10nm factory at Samsung and TSMC
@fej - TSMC is already looking at 3nm/1nm nodes in research. Not sure what type of technologies they will try, but it's generally agreed that for 5nm and below, planar transistors or finFETs will not be feasible, instead they are looking at stacked horizontal nanowires (also called gate all-around transistors). I think carbon nanotubes and a couple other technologies are being researched, but still have serious limitations.
When does physics break the entire cycle?