I was a recruiter there for 3 years myself. There were good people there trying to do right by the students, against all odds. Who knows? Maybe the ones who claim to have worked there, defending it on these posts, really did belong to the flower schools in the giant bucket of sh--. But make no mistake, this was a horrible place to work for the most part. Corporate just did not care about anything but profit, and look what they've done. They've ruined something that's been around since 1969. I just hope the ones who deserve it, gets what's coming to them. And the others, honest workers, and students most of all, make out fine.
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G R E E D. Nothing more to say.
Good point about how it used to be tougher. ITT-Tech keeps going on about how it is a STEM school -- but seriously, at least the S and M parts are missing. The Science and Math classes are a joke, to make accreditors and students happy they are in a "tech" school without actually being hard enough to discourage any students into dropping. Everything wrong with those classes -- the scope and sequence didn't make sense, no admissions criteria, anyone could pass the entry level "problem solving" class that pretended to be a pre-requisite for Math I but really wasn't, I could go on and on. Upshot is most graduates couldn't do simple algebra. One electronics capstone presentation I watched was a student who bought a scam perpetual motion machine on the internet and was fruitlessly trying to demonstrate how it worked -- he only got a B+, instead of usual A.
I found in an old cabinet some materials, exams, etc from about 20-25 years ago....I thought what school did these come from---these are much tougher than anything ITT uses. Surprise, it was actually ITT materials. I doubt 15% of the current students would have any hope of even attempting them, let alone doing well. When placed side by side with today's materials, they showed a noticeable difference in level of difficulty.
In the early days they provided some of the finest technical education in the country. Things started going south when they went public. Headquarters was only interested in stockholders and profits. Full time faculty became adjunct, curriculum was watered down to fit a shortened schedule and tuition skyrocketed along with corporate salaries. Expectations in every department changed to make the company more profitable and unfortunately, students suffered and so did employees. Growth was the name of the game and it was fueled with unbudgeted classes in new start up schools. Early investigations and complaints from agencies and the public were put behind the scenes with payoffs. The direction of the company beginning in the late 90's left me no choice but to retire as soon as possible. Employees saw their benefits stripped one by one until there was nothing left to take from them. I always said the evil empire would eventually find the Karma it had created and I am so glad it is over.
It is a shame that corporate decisions can affect so many lives and ruin and excellent educational opportunity.
At the end of the day, was what they were doing worth almost $50000 for an associates? Think about that, almost the same price as a private university. They charge so much that they were able to pay me for a class if they only had one student. Their tuition covered by salary for the class. And where did all this money go? Recruitment, buildings, profit,... Very little to the students.