WARN Notices

Just an FYI, unless the rules have changed, companies are supposed to post a WARN listing if there are going to be mass layoffs. Most states have a website where you can see them. Here is the site for Texas;

http://www.twc.state.tx.us/businesses/worker-adjustment-and-retraining-notification-warn-notices

Although I know there have been layoffs in both Houston and Plano this year, and none are listed on the 2016 WARN Notice, there are 3 listed for the 2015 notice. So, not sure if there has to be a certain number before a company has to give 'WARN'ing.

The WARN Act is meant to give the community and employees some sort of warning of layoffs coming, again, not sure how soon they are required to give notice.....

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In other words, the WARN numbers/statistics are worthless (at least in the case of HPE). They found a loophole, and just voluntarily report a few numbers to minimize in the eyes of the external community the real impact of the people getting impacted. It's actually brilliantly evil... Everyone out there knows that HPE is laying off people,but when they look at these statistics they probably say... Well, it's not that bad. Look at the numbers of all those other Companies... For the size of HPE is not that bad at all...

Wake up, people. HPE has a brilliant communications and public relationships team. Everything they communicate and do is extremely well thought.

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You still get the 60 Day equivalent.

"The Cash Severance Payment will be reduced by the 60-day pay equivalent advance payment that you receive shortly after you leave HPE."

The 60-Day pay equivalent is provided in lieu of the WARN notice. It's the first lump sum you receive after you leave HP. Instead of warning workers they will lose their jobs in 60 days during this mass layoff, HP has agreed to just pay their workers to leave quickly. This is not a severance payment.

The Cash Severance Payment is the 11 weeks of pay minus the 60 day payment. Depending on how long you worked, if it's been over 11 years then you get more, like in the example above.

Yes it's confusing. Somebody should be fired for writing it up this way. I had to read it 20 times before I understood it.

They do not need a WARN if they give you a 60 days severance payment. Search this site for the 60 day warn string - there is a tin of posts in this

Thanks for the information. Yes... It would be interesting to understand more their definition of "mass layoffs" in order to trigger reporting compliance, and how that 'x' number ties to a period of time. Depending on how it is designed, it might be prone to loopholes... I really doubt only 163 employees were laid off in Houston in 2015... At least, it definitively felt like many, many more...

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Federal law, known as the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act or WARN Act, offers protection to workers, their families and communities by requiring employers to provide notice 60 days in advance of plant closings, mass layoffs and/or sale of a business.

Employers that are reducing their workforce, conducting layoffs, or closing their businesses and have between 50-99 employees affected are typically required to report this information via a WARN filing to the Tennessee Department of Labor however, there are some important differences between the two laws. Federal WARN - Applies to employers with 100 or more full-time workers.

Definition of “Mass Layoff” triggering notice requirements:

50 or more full-time employees are laid off if they constitute one-third or more of the full-time employees at the site, or

500 or more full-time employees.

See more at: https://www.tn.gov/workforce/article/warn-notices#sthash.mwffj0Es.dpuf

Thank you for the info OP

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