Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

@IIJpB0i-2pyr Ah and why ACT was the best thing to happen to me. I would have never left that $hit hole as the pay was good but management and direction the worst and getting worse. The profits and monopoly and need for x86 keeps the corrupt and incompetent system going but the house of cards is starting to fail.

By adding some external poison IE the Qualcomm senior management and you've created enough additional internal turmoil between the old intel guard and the new powers that lots of strange undercurrents are happening.

I hear right below BK the talk and respect for him is just nil and everyone is posturing for the great collapse for their piece.

@2htu.....Sounds great! There is only one problem....ego. Intel will never be able to execute at the pace and efficiency the market requires. At this point it's more of a political entity than a high tech company.

So for each of the failures what should the response be?

1) PSO said NO to Jobs and the iPhone based on 100x failed sales projections

Response: Develop a process that is ARM capable and offer it to Apple, they already are doing modems for free for them. If the process is so good and capable as PTD claims then Apple should be more than willing as it will give them a leg up on Samsung and Apple would love to play AMD over TSMC.

2) BK is elected CEO

Recovery: Fire him, just like they did to PSO, don't wait too long as he is BKing it, that is easy, LOL

3) Intel Foundry failure

Recovery: Reorgainze it and put someone who has a clue in charge. The head of ICF is clueless!

4) StrongARM sold to Marvel

Recovery: Do a ARM design and show the world how good intel design is. Opps maybe they will get exposed that they can't do a design fast, good, at all.

5) Murthy hired for 25M to bs everyone with IoT as the big thing

Recovery: Fire him that is easy too.

6) 40M tablets bs

Recovery: Don't repeat the same mistake, but they are in modems and will in IoT too, LOL

7) Age and a---kissing based layoff

Recovery: Do future layoffs based on return. A good example fire all of ICF as they haven't produced anything. Many other groups have similar need to be fired.

8) PTD dictatorship unable to deliver 14 and 10 nm on time.

Recovery: Change the leadership to one that can openly discuss the issue and admit Moore is dead and put a plan to milk what little is left.

@IIJpB0i-1mxj you know who runs Nvidia.. no amount of money would have gotten a buyout. The CEO hates INTEL with a passion and he is having jollies watching BK ruin the company while his company is kicking A$$.

It helps when your CEO is smart versus a fab manufacturing monkey that you can do things.

Another miss was failing to acquire Nvidia back in 2006/2007, when AMD bought ATI. This would have given Intel a credible graphics business in both the enthusiast PC and HPC markets. Probably not a make or break decision, but it certainly would have helped if they got it right. Although with Intel history of failed acquisitions, it is arguable that they could have fcked it up.

Instead, Intel chose to stick with crappy Intel HD graphics (sounds familiar, doesn't it?)

"Got written up for not sitting primarily in the unassigned pool of TWWW battery cages ("keep up the great work, just do it within 20 feet of post Z9"), which resulted in my being part of the 2015 ISP."

This is just so stupid...and just SO Intel...

Meanwhile, Rome burns.

Nice success story @1eap. :)

Ah, yes, the cluster-f*ck of TWWW. Hardware design team, so of course we got moved to this with the whole team having unassigned seating. "You can work in whatever space is good for you on a given day" so I worked primarily in our lab space. Got written up for not sitting primarily in the unassigned pool of TWWW battery cages ("keep up the great work, just do it within 20 feet of post Z9"), which resulted in my being part of the 2015 ISP.

Worked out fine. I now have comparable Tcomp elsewhere, almost never work more than 45 hours a week and have an actual office with a door I can close, a window I can look out of and a life I can go on to enjoy when I leave it.

@1gxm

Too late. Intel's image has been tarnished for a long time now.

It's considered a backwards dinosaur by people in the semi industry.

Have you seen TWWW cubes in C6, 3rd floor? These are f***g chicken cages. No self respecting engineer can possibly like it. Still Intel publishes survey results showing 90℅ people like it. Why should we believe anything management says? If they don't want to listen, why we should fill out any stupid surveys? They will listen only after company image is completely tarnished, series of criticising articles get published in media, good candidates hesitate to join the company, and damage is done beyond recovery, then arrogant management would wake up. The company has been on the downhill path since Andy Grove stepped down, but BK is pressing gas paddle as if he is in hurry to reach rock bottom.

Wow @ ijw. I can't believe they went to your manager over posting a link to an article. Interestingly, I too posted about TW3 (and it wasn't nice either. lol). I don't recall exactly what I said, but something to the effect that I disliked it soooo much, that I posted out for a new job that's not in TW3, and that was the FIRST time I posted out in 12 yrs. I also made a comment that if TW3 came my way, that I'd run to stay ahead of it, even if that meant running out the front door.

So I get a personal email from Mr CS VP himself saying something to the effect that "Sorry, hate to tell you but it will be coming your way, we'll be done with Oregon by end of 2017" (or end of 2016, don't recall). I said I was serious about going out the front door if it did and not only did I hold true to my promise to myself.... but I got super lucky when the ERP package landed in my lap as they had just started talking about TW3 for my floor a few months before.

I had been hanging on for a package since early 2015 when I became eligible but would have left without one. In fact, a few weeks before I caught word on a package coming out I was weighing whether or not I could stick around for a few more months after TW3 in the hopes a package was coming, or did I hate it enough not to step foot in it again? I was considering WFH as long as I could while I waited for a package. Luckily the package landed before the fiasco started. THANK GOODNESS!!

So... I held to my promise of "running out the front door if there was nowhere else to run inside the company" and 'Exited, stage left'. Gotta love it when things line up for you. :)

Oh, I considered emailing Mr CS VP to say goodbye, that I was keeping my promise to leave as I stated on the blog but thought better of it. I will wave to him now though, I'm sure he monitors this site.

• waves * "Told ya I wouldn't stick around for TW3! Been there, done that, won't do it again". HATE IT!!!

@ijw - oh, the CS VP. What a d-bag. He personally emailed me after I commented on a blog post about the TWWW pilot studies. He had written a post about the pilot study results and had manipulated the data to prove his point (that TWWW was good.). However, the C7 pilot was a failure (he couldn't mask that data) but he blamed it on the fact that they got re-used material (existing cube walls re-configured) instead of new. He completely neglected the fact that the C7 pilot was the only group of engineers (other 2 groups were marketing) and ignored their input. When I pointed this out in the comments (along with some other liberties he was taking with the data) he personally emailed me and accused me seeing conspiracy theories. Again, what a d-bag.

When intel went from a tech driven company to a socially pc driven company.

@rso - I dislike BK greatly, but at least he is open to other architectures.

Not true. If he was really open to other archs, he would have embraced ARM arch and business model back in 2013 when there was still some time to counter the mobile threat. Remember that Intel still has an ARM arch license, meaning it can tweak and optimize the base ARM design to fit its needs.

@IIJpB0i-ppr. This is all in the rear view mirror for me as I've left Intel, but I am reminded by your post that in the 2013-ish timeframe, I got into trouble for commenting about TWWW negatively on the Circuit blogs. I didn't even SAY anything---I simply provided a link to a study that demonstrated that TWWW (i.e., open workspaces) don't work for many many kinds of work environments, and that companies who had adopted them wholeheartedly were now walking it back. I posted it as an invitation for conversation. Big mistake. Apparently a CS VP of the initiative took note and displeasure in my post and pinged my manager's manager and my VP. After the heat trickled down to me, the takeaway was I was advised to please stay off Circuit comments for at least six months and preferably longer.

How about when some senior fellow decided to make sure intel had the both the most dense gate and metal pitch and pretty much totally f---ed the whole development organization.

@IIJpB0i-moe so many Moore, LOL

From that list, #2.

But if I can add another, the rise in power of management, finance and HR at the expense of engineering. TWWW cubes are the cherry on top of that sundae. They're great for those teams but are proven to be terrible for engineers. And if you complain they ignore you because their little echo chamber says they're great, so you're just a negative person if you don't like them.

IA everywhere was an arrogant and clueless strategy. Reminds me of Ballmer laughing at the iPhone (watch the YouTube video - it's hilarious).

Ballmer and PSO are probably buddies who share the same moronic echo chamber of nonsense.

When Andy Grove Retired (drops mike)

Intel made Craig Barrett CEO. He then started the "Leading edge is bleeding edge" movement.

Intel has proceded downhill ever since.

A combo of 1 and 4 - PSO's biggest failure was his insistence that IA was the only way. That led to the Xscale sell off and the refusal to sell to Apple, among many other things. I dislike BK greatly, but at least he is open to other architectures.

all of the above.. the age-based and otherwise nonsensical layoff is particularly egregious..

I tend to agree that 1 and 4 are the original sins, the impact of which is still being felt. However, BK's track record with foundry, mobile and layoffs is nothing to be proud of.

PSO is the biggest failure.

Only a moron couldn't see that the iPhone would have been a huge hit given Apple's track record with iPod and Mac.

This lead to a chain reaction that is felt to this day. The volume has decisively shifted to the foundries and away from Intel. Now they can aheive and surpass Intel's scale.

All of the above?