https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/08/02/leader-troubled-accrediting-agency-resigns
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I always put her number up in men's rooms bathroom stalls. As far as I know she likes it.
Nicole Elam posts her name, email address, phone number on countless ITT-Tech websites. Yeah, its childish, but go ahead and register her for ITT-Tech open house. Lets see how she likes it when her office phone and email get flooded with messages from call center reps.
How about some good sallie mae numbers so that they can skip the student harassment and get ITT and Sallie Mae to harass each other directly?
Maybe there is a good list of FTC/FCC/senators that we can have them call 3x a day instead?
"Open House: Saturday 8/13/2016"...go ahead & give them some old numbers to call...they will have fun trying over & over. They are required to call each one 3 times a day-every day, even if it just rings or is out of service (since many don't pay their phone bill until the first of the month)
https://www.itt-tech.edu/campus/school.cfm?lloc_num=23
Only big announcement on ITT-Tech campus websites is
"Open House: Saturday 8/13/2016 10AM-2PM Click here to register!"
Looks like the sales pitch is still paramount!
If only I knew how to hack into that page, I would post a link to the show-cause letter ACICS sent to CEO Kevin Modany.
ACICS is so lame. They are in the pockets of their scam organizations. They give all benefits to their institutions, while students come last.
Am trying to find list of ACICS schools on probation -- so I know when ACICS has made its decision on ITT-Tech. But it is very hard to find names of schools that have been placed on probation after show-cause hearing, or names of schools that are appealing suspension. Am I missing something here?
For example Everest University in Brandon, Florida, was put on probation at last ACICS council meeting, which you can find out only if you dig out April meeting minutes on ACICS website. But the ACICS Directory of Institutions still lists the campus, with no indication at all if they are on probation, or appealing suspension, or teaching out. Not even a little asterisk and footnote!
This is so unlike websites for state nursing boards, where they clearly indicate status of all programs in nursing (many of ITT-Tech's nursing programs are on probation, and/or suspending new enrollments!)
It seems only when accreditation is completely withdrawn by ACICS, does the institution appear on a special "accreditation conditioned" list, and simultaneously disappear from directory.
If I go to Everest University in Brandon campus website, it says on home page "teaching out," but does not say why. But there is a link on home page to accreditation information, where in the fine print it says "Accredited by the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS). Notice to students and prospective students: Everest's campuses in Brandon, Pompano Beach, and South Orlando have been placed on probation by their accreditor, the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools ("ACICS") based on retention and placement rates reported to ACICS in 2014 and 2015."
Notice to students, and prospective students, is a rule in ACICS criteria for campuses on probation. No doubt that is only reason the fine print appears on Everest University website. Note that ITT-Tech campuses where nursing programs are placed on probation by nursing board show no info posted to that effect anywhere, neither is it on ACICS website. ITT-Tech showing loyalty to everyone except its students, employees, and the public.
Someone posted this at the ACICS layoff site:
Gonna miss it
Was a program evaluator (auditor) for decades. Gonna miss staying in top-notch Marriotts, eating at 5-star restaurants (I remember a meal once for 5 of us that cost over $700), and traveling to great locales. There were some fellow evaluator colleagues who were a true pleasure to work with.
Not going to miss finding issues in violation of the Criteria and issuing a citation in my report to the Council, only to continually revisit the same school and keep seeing the same violations unchanged. Not going to miss the silly politics the coordinators used to select only their friends in the evaluators pool to go on visits.
The schools under ACICS bribed ACICS through lavish meals and accommodations, as well as seats to industry owners/managers on the vary council giving their industry "oversight". I see now how it was a rigged system, though fun while it lasted. A shame.
4 days ago by Evaluator | Post ID: @IDwFoKt
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https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IDwFoKt
Pretty funny they would rather go out of business than admit the worst 5 schools including ITT were always a get rich quick scam and preyed upon students. That is all it would have taken to save thousands of jobs and prevent accreditation worries for hundreds of schools that actually try to do a good job.
How is it last ditch when they never actually tried to ditch the rotten schools yet? They made an easy choice to ditch an obviously corrupt patsy but never tried to do their actual job.
Meanwhile, the sharks are circling ACICS.
The new choice for ACICS leader, Roger Williams, seems more like a last-ditch attempt for survival than anything else. On the ACICS website, they mention his experience at rescuing a failing accreditation agency. But they don't mention his agency only worked with training/vocational schools, not "higher-ed" bachelor degree institutions.
How can ACICS be qualified now, any more than the past decade, to scrutinize a massive B.S. institution like ITT-Tech (pun intended)? Looks like fertile ground for revocations, suspensions, appeals, lawsuits, court cases and lawyers, etc, while students and employees languish in limbo.
Williams retired in 2013 from accreditation agency, ACCET, that he saved from the brink in 1990. Now, the current executive of ACCET is working to get approval to accredit bachelor degree institutions, so they can take over for ACICS! (http://accet.org/).
(1) Will we hear anything today or tomorrow about the ACICS-ESI meeting?
(2) What role, if any, will the Zhang's investment have in the decision?
Some background:
http://www.acics.org/news/content.aspx?id=6690
Interesting - wonder what the inside story is on this? Arguments over direction?