Management has been running around like crazy this week and it seems cross training is being accelerated. Somehow people are expected to go through a 30 minute "training" on involved processes and then quality checked by people barely scratching the competency level on the same thing. Meanwhile, teamleads and managers are finding ways to screw things up, lecture people on processes they can't handle themselves, set unreachable expectations, and basically setting up people to fail. Guess that's one way to ensure no one can get raises. This place is imploding.
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@ICwGsox-2crx, how do you reform Devry? By "resisting" in small ways, to start. Email me (anonymously if you need to) and I'll give you some suggestions. If you are ethical and higher ups want to squeeze you for numbers, THEY are the ones that need to go, not you.
Camden, "culture of silence" is exactly right. We used to freely express our views, concerns, and even objections. Now we get veiled warnings or guilt trips for the slightest mention of concern over the company's direction or the negative effects that the changes have on students. It's like they don't want us to care anymore, they just want us to sit down, shut up, and go along for the ride until they decide to kick us off. How do you fix a situation like that? And why are we discouraged from expressing reasonable concerns in the first place? Is it because they don't plan to ever correct them? We can only speculate. Just not in the presence of certain managers.
It's engaging when you bring a process improvement idea to management then they steal your idea and then win all sorts of awards for it. I'll pass on giving anyone my ideas
In other words, Camden, it's business as usual.
People may not have solutions but its pretty clear the status quo isnt working to well either. Lay off, hire cheaper, promote, layoff off, repeat. That certainly is fixing underlying issues. That is making systems work better right? That raises engagement right? That is bringing in students right? But wait....it isnt fixing sh-- after all. Who knew except for every colleague who is left standing for the moment. Geez....the stupid is strong with you isn't it? All is not well in the land of Oz. Sorry if the truth that people are saying on here bursts your bubble. It's dumb--ses like you that follow leaders right off the cliff. Koolaid has it right. You need a reality check.
@ICwGsox-1rxh, it would be great if Devry would reform itself.
Part of this reform would be for Devry management to listen to their most ethical workers and utilize their constructive criticism. At this point, there a "culture of silence" and lots of dedicated Kool-Aid consumption. From what I gather, the higher up the ladder, the more deviant ad dishonest it gets.
Getting rid of your most ethical people is not the way to go.
@ICwGsox-1esk. You are another management tool. Please enlighten the rest of us with how well the current system is working. Without parroting the company line please.
What solutions have you offered mr Kool aid server? I don't see anything but banter and crying on your end. Leave your job or shut the heck up. Big baby.
I bet you're referring to dos registrar where the clowns think every colleague should know 100 processes. Funny that the leads know 0. Best part is the trainings are just a 10 min brain shark of a lead reading to you and then you're on your own. Complain and you're labeled negative and you're on the chopping block
Wow you are a genuine Kool aid drinker huh? Ever think that with so many lay offs and many more to the point of not wanting to be here, maybe, JUST MAYBE, things aren't as wonderful as you and managers would like to think?
You want to have blind faith in management fine that is your business. But that faith won't keep you safe from the next round of layoffs. Have you NOT been reading this board at all? Have you NOT been paying attention to colleagues in the offices and campuses? It's not oh a person here and there unhappy with this place. Get you head out of your a-- and join the rest of us in the real world. Actually read what people are saying on these boards. Actually listen to what people around you are saying. When so many are grumbling about leaving or even saying unemployment is better than being here, there is a problem. Sticking your head in the sand isn't going to make it go away.
Colleagues HAVE offered some solutions on how to better processes. They are ignored. Managers have it in their mind their way is it and if you suggest something they ignore it or they claim you are not a team player. So maybe that is why people have given up on trying to give ideas on improvement. What's the point if mgmt won't listen to any ideas but their own?
But continue to be a good little minion, a cheerleader for management and home office. I'm sure it will save you from the next layoff. (Sarcasm) When it doesn't, don't come crying on here. I doubt those who have been laid off or those who saw this storm coming will have sympathy for you. You are a special breed of stupid if you think this place is stable.
Hope that koolaid is tasty.
Lawsuits? Investigations? So far there is only one lawsuit and investigation. That just deals with jobs after graduating numbers. Please provide a docket number for the multiple lawsuits, we already know of the FTC, that's just a= one lawsuit. So scrap the online model, close down online schools. Ok that's a genius solution. Wow are you stupid. I see a lot of finger pointing n crying in here but no solutions. If you don't like your job then quit. Leave, no one is forcing you to stay.
@ICwGsox-1gea I think a lot of people are in the same boat as you and will be jumping ship. This place is in a downward spiral. I know a lot of colleagues are looking to get out and are writing letters of recommendations for each other and using as references. We are all in the same spot. I expect a mass exodus of colleagues. Maybe that's what management wants? Then hire new people for cheaper?
The sub part training and this everyone learning everything model will blow up in their faces. This sacrificing quality for quantity is just another example of bad decisions and panicking by higher ups. God forbid you say something about it though. They just want to hear the company cheerleaders, not the reality.
I see a bunch of managers or manager wannabes are posting since their posts are all about the current status being good. Have you NOT been paying attention to this board or the colleagues in the offices? It's not all rainbows and butterflies. People are unhappy and leaving. They are overworked because of layoff happy leadership being completely clueless as to how to run this place. Fixing the current model? You mean the model that has caused multiple investigations, dropping enrollment of students and engagement of colleagues? You don't need to fix it you need to scrap it. IT'S NOT WORKING. If it was you wouldn't have enrollment dropping like a stone. You wouldn't have people thinking unemployment is better than working here. You wouldn't have lawsuits and investigations coming from multiple directions. You wouldn't have students on multiple message boards sharing horror stories of dealing with the school. It's time to come back to reality and see what is really going on.
And before you say "where are your ideas" I can tell you many of us have tried to management things to improve what's going on and it's fallen on deaf ears. Management doesn't want to hear the problems - they have their blinders on and can't handle the actual truths of the matter.
You can try to blame Camden or anyone else as a cheap copout. You want to know who to blame for the current model not working and the woes of DEG? Look no further than Home Office and 90% of the office dwellers
I am one of those people in the inadequate 30 min training. I questioned my team lead about the success of this and I'm told I'm not being positive. Team leads drank the kool aid not sure what they are promising them. They tell you how many minutes you should be spending on each task. I'm turning in my equipment on Monday I have had enough . I was told training will go even faster?? Obviously not a student driven school. All the employees are stressed out and looking to get out.
That is an amazing point. Camden, since you are out there and we all know you read this. How come you haven't partnered with the school to make it better for the students? You are an educator. You know how things should be run, why haven't you assisted devry in making their model better? Because educating people not to go there and telling them how bad devry is won't stop them from going. Why not partner and see how well you do as an educator and a leader? Without tearing down the current model. Because if they close their doors, all the people who went there will have a hard time like the people who attended the Corinthian colleges. Think their lives got better since the school closed??? I don't think so. So what do you say Camden the Zeus of education, why haven't you partnered up and shared your knowledge with devry?
I think they would say that they are helping students by making schools provide they are worthy of the vast federal funds they receive for free. What does the constitution have to do with it?
Camden Kid and D--k Durbin are taking over!!!!!!!!! They know it all and have all the answers!!! They love to knock private education and love to close them down. Question for both tho, since we all believe in the constitution and democracy, why would such smart educational leaders try to knock them down and not help the institutions??? Seems like they are not fans of the constitution, free commerce, freedom of choice, freedom of education. So I bode the question to the finger pointers and people that want to destroy the model. Since Camden and Durbin care so much about students, why aren't they working with the schools to better the school and educational process??? Seems that would be the most American thing to do.