Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Intel problem is, management is not technical. Management is encouraged not to be technical.

As outrageous as it sound, managers in Intel do not know technical. SLM discourages their FLM to focus on managing and not being technical lead. While Intel technology is complicated and intricate, without continuous following the technical side of their projects, managers lost technical expertise to make sound technical decision. Even PEs no longer get their hands dirty with the machines. It is not surprising how Intel is losing technical leadership in the IT industry.

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Post ID: @OP+Hnhliru

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At Intel you need to talk a lot, make beautiful ppt's and do networking. No one is worried about deliverables. You can escape by pushing deliverables to RCG's . All managers and PE's do the same and get a hefty pay.

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Post ID: @2kpc+Hnhliru

What I don't understand is this one factor: how are we allowing H1B work Visas for work here in the U.S.

However In their own country, there are more issues with prenatal care. Children are born looking like mermaids or with 4 extra limbs. Shouldn't only highly skilled individuals be hired for a " supposed Top 50 Company "

It just seems to me, they should be sponsoring and aiding their homeland first versus running from it.

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Post ID: @1epd+Hnhliru

Intel have some managers from India without US degree to manage highly technical teams such as design teams. And US Phds are bullied these Indian manager. Some of these US Phd left Intel because of no promotion for many years.

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Post ID: @lyn+Hnhliru

Completely agree with OP - and I was a manager in IT until 3 weeks ago. I was a rare bird in that I was still quite technical after 12+ years of managing, other managers knew it and felt threatened by it (here I am). Many managers will proudly proclaim to be the "least technical person" they know. Yeah, and their people know they're clueless and hate working for them.

To take a page from Jeff Foxworthy: If you think MS Excel makes you technical, you might be an Intel manager.

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Post ID: @uxw+Hnhliru

The issue is not technical vs non technical. More blathering from engineers that don't know how to lead.

The issue is, was, and will continue to be is that Intel promotes great individual contributors to management. And that quality doesn't mean you'll be a great manager or leader. Some people naturally are and it works out. Some people work and become adequate managers. And a large percentage of them are sh-- managers with no idea what they are doing. Whether they are technical or not is secondary.

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Post ID: @lyu+Hnhliru

LOL, even many PEs are overly highly under qualified. This company only shrink and force the same old circuits to fit the new process with famous motto "Do not invent a new whee". That's it. Where is the innovation? I've seen many PEs are just a politician not really technical talent. Congrats Intel for throwing away all the quality credits and glorious reputation built by those hard working old farts - sorry, they are gone now.

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Post ID: @xzq+Hnhliru

I think the first one that should take responsibility and go home is BK. He had a few years do change projects towards what's needed and he did not.

Murthy is a bad deal, did bad at qualcom now damaged Intel. Doing low cost processors for Iot is not really Intel's speciality.

Besides that, everything written about Intel's managers is true. Raised to be politicians, caring about focal and their next job more than their team members.

Planning to leave this focal job security company, hoping to get vsp offer.

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Post ID: @qut+Hnhliru

Most people who go into management and stay in management are ones who cannot do technical. Let's face it, Intel technology changes as fast as they change the acronyms of the technology. If you are not good at technical, you quickly become atrophied. Managers know they are technically atrophied but they need the paycheck. That is why they reinforce their behaviors on other managers to justify their existence. I think managers should rotate back to individual contributor every three years.

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Post ID: @pbz+Hnhliru

I am waiting for a payout to leave.

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Post ID: @bcg+Hnhliru

Wow! This surprising that in IT the mgmt has no technical skills. I agree with another poster here hat in FSM the mgmt is simply "glorified engineers". They have no idea on the concept for their role as a true mgr. Forget budget allocation,forget resource allocation (they absolutely suck at it), forget going to bat for and defending the team, forget escalating issues quickly to upper mgmt for resolution. They do nothing to enhance the team. They only tell you to make pretty slides and present them at umpteen different mtgs.

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Post ID: @yoa+Hnhliru

Intel is broken beyond being repair, yes, yes - we all know that's true. So, why are you still there? I left 2 years ago and I am the happiest I have been in my adult life.

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Post ID: @yst+Hnhliru

Many managers don't even know where their teams' labs are.

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Post ID: @vnf+Hnhliru

They are technical to the point of saying the jargons their TAs prepare for them to say.

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Post ID: @pfm+Hnhliru

Opposite in fab - the GLs and managers know technical, but they suck hard at people management. Training does help them, but it's only sporadically done - this training always gets cut.

So they still like to play engineer. Tip: never show them data in a presentation. It stops their playtime.

[this is outside of TD mandated presentations, which demand data - with specified colors for each fab, how to use symbols, and other graph formatting requirements. It's awesome when the feedback on your data is about the font you used.]

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Post ID: @jfe+Hnhliru

I am manager at Intel and need to start planning my scape plan.

Below are skills I excel at (most of those learned at Intel):

  • Political

  • Squeeze every once out engineers

  • Make management happy (yes man)

  • Throwing people under the bus

  • Socializing, spend many hours at the cafeteria

  • Knowing how to do little work as possible

  • Expert in focal self review and getting excellent feedback from others

  • Keeping an eye for management on those that don't follow Intel's culture

  • Smile at management especially BK and Murthy

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/Hc6k6gj

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Post ID: @vxl+Hnhliru

Agreed with OP.. to make matters worst, then they let go the real technical/experienced people..

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Post ID: @dbr+Hnhliru

For example, this Intel senior leadership proudly announce the love for money than engineering. This will not be what Andy grove wants to see.

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/qmzWqUpkWnP7MIZdwdu4EI/Intel-India-to-lay-off-some-employees.html

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Post ID: @wrg+Hnhliru

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