Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

@-1mni and @-2lsw: that's a good idea, but you can only do that once. Intel has a long-standing policy where if you leave on good terms, you can come back once, but leave twice and they won't rehire you a second time.

At Intel - came in as a contractor at age 56 (white also). I also found 2 other jobs at over age 50. In NYC area I had 4 very good offers, 2 from Siemens and 1 from Motorola + 1 other smaller co. That being said I still worry about getting a job at my age. I do embedded systems, Linux, etc. and have found the demand very strong.

I have found three jobs in EE in the Portland OR are since I tuned 50, in fact Intel hired me at 59. I am still there. But I never worked 13 years anywhere, I always jumped ship. Ya gotta keep your skills sharp and no better way to do it than take jobs you are only marginally qualified for.

That's exactly how you do it, @-1mni. it's the only way to negotiate a large raise, grade raise or title.

This thread has departed from the OP but oh well..... One of my co-workers who has moved up several times gave some tips. One approach involves actually leaving intel, then coming back as a re-hire, and when you re-enter younegotiate a higher grade and salary increase.

I'm -1ofa and not an engineer nor one of the highly paid employees.

It took me 15 yrs to move up a grade from the grade I was hired at and that's all with strong focals.

I'm surprised at the number of people that tell me they've been in grade for 8+ years. I've only been here a few years but I'm already pushing to move up in grade. Of course I'm hitting brick walls as I try to move up but I keep trying anyway. It seems REALLY difficult to move up in grade.

It can be challenging to land an equivalent paying job over 50. But if your skills are current and you are willing (or forced) to leave the area you should find something. I wouldn't expect to get a giant raise but something should come up. If you think your isp bit is going to get set before you are ready to retire you should consider discreetly looking now.

Next time he says that document it and send an email to yourself for the records. Its nice to have that documented but when they give you the ISP no document will save you. I had all sort of documents and they would not bodge.