Thread regarding Zenith Education Group layoffs

To 3pwh: I wonder some times when I see the emails that some of these "dizzy cheer leaders" called Asst Deans if they really believe the dribble or if they actually are just sucking the money hose. I would have more respect if they were sucking. What they write is almost too silly to believe! They can't all be that air headed, two I know are, but the others can not all be that goofy.

You are right, warm and fuzzy is all the Deans want. Actually try and teach and you will be let go. They don't want accountability from the students, just want to keep them moving along with fake A's.

All that's left are "YES" people. If you truly believed in educating the students with the skills they needed to succeed, you were someone that bucked the new direction of Zenith and were let go. It's all about making the students feel warm and cozy inside so they don't have their little feelings hurt and will stay in school, not about the actual education they need for real world work situations.

Zenith has slowly gotten rid of anyone that has real life experience and kept the most corrupt and self serving. This will not succeed in the long term. They need to look carefully at some of their supervisors, they are taking this school down. But it seems Everest doesn't care, they are selling feel good fluff not education, that is why we have cheer leaders as bosses, not educators. We did have a few educators before the change, maybe not all of them, but there were a few. Now there are none.

I sleep very well at night as long as the paychecks keep coming. Screw the students and take their money, it's a business first and don't any of you forget that.

The OP said, "we are stealing, he's not proud, he can't sleep (I imagine bc of all the criminal things he's doing), et al. And you're saying, that I can't say he should quit?!? Obviously, OP is not in a position to affect a positive change on his campus, and I guarantee you he's not giving 100%. He believes he works for a corrupt organization with "sleazy" leaders. He is in no position to criticize as long as he remains employed. Come on man!

Just because people have their opinions on what they feel is wrong with WyoTech, someone has to come on and tell them to quit. Anyone who has been with WyoTech before the sale to CCi and then to ECMC knows how bad the school has gone down hill. WyoTech is no longer the premier school it once was and will never return to that statis until it toughens up and holds students to the highest demands needed to be the best. Just because an employee criticizes what the school has become does not necessarily mean that employee isn't giving 100% to the students or the school. It may mean that employee feels that many students are graduating now that would have failed before WyoTech lowered the qualifications a student needed to graduate. And believe me, I have seen many great instructors leave because of this reason. No matter how hard you work with a student, some are just not going to have the mechanical ability to do the job.

I really believe ECMC wants to run an ethical education company (ZEG), but employees must find the courage to report any illegal activities--that's with any business. And like any business, we still have people employed who are crooks and in order for the company to survive, we must get rid of all of them. I certainly hope what the previous post said about Guy is not true, but if it is--good riddance.

Yes, Guy is no longer with the company. The press release doesn't say how he left.

Again, another post from the WORST kind of hypocrite who says what we are doing is bad and yet, still continues to work for the company. The analogies one might use are endless. Please spare me with your sanctimonious BS. You are just another example of a person who can't find a job earning the same pay you are now, and you're too cowardice to leave. We can all have our opinions about whether this company is ripping off people, and I for one do not believe that's the case. I sleep very well at night knowing the vast majority of us do the best we can, and we do make a difference in so many lives. For the current employees who don't think so, STFU and either do your job or leave. I'm sure you won't be missed.

1 in 10, heck that's better than Everest. Everest really has issues. Most of those so called "Deans" and "assistant Deans" are useless people that couldn't get real jobs and now just send out cheer leader emails to instructors. Like someone said in a a previous post, there's a fashion major that runs the business unit? How can they allow that? She was there when I was there and we all saw her as useless. It's sad what is done to the poor, some deserve it because they are just taking the money to live on, others are just too stupid to realize they should never be in college and the degree will never pay off their debt. They just "con" the ignorant and give them massive debt and call it liberalism. Very sad. How can you have Deans and Assistant Deans that never have done the real life work of what they supervise?

I got RIFed back in April from Wyotech. I heard that Guy Warpness is no longer with WyoTech. Can anyone tell me if that is true and if so did he leave or was he terminated?

WyoTech was the leader in the automotive education 14 years ago when I joined WyoTech as an instructor. Many things has caused the demise of WyoTech over the years. First CCi bought them and used the name and reputation of WyoTech as nothing more than a cash cow. Putting the WyoTech name on HVAC, plumbing and aeronautics schools completely degraded the name. Also by expanding WyoTech into so many campuses we started to compete with our selves for good students. This forced CCi to recruit anyone who could qualify for federal aid just to fill the seats. This caused the problem of poor attrition and failure rates. To combat this problem we lowered the standards to create more graduates. This caused another problem with placement rates because employers didn't want our graduates since they didn't have the ability to do the job. Now what do we need to do about the placement problem since this will affect our Title IV funding and our accreditation? Ah, we need to change how we determine what is a placement. One day on the job will count as a placement. Then the problem with drop out and failure rates reared its ugly head again. So, people with NO automotive repair experience decided our curriculum was to difficult and needed dumbed down. Now WyoTech is charging 30 thousand dollars to train students to be lube technicians. Even with this management still forces us to have student "FUN" days where the students play games like bean bag toss instead of learning how to diagnose and repair vehicles. Today's WyoTech is not much different than an overpriced day care center. And heaven forbid if we ask that a student be drug tested, that will hurt our attrition rate.

Honorable? Yes. Practical? No. I feel badly for those who have been at Wyotech long enough to see it decline from a proud automotive school to, well, whatever it is has become under the corrosive leadership of CCI and ECMC. I know that Laramie is not the best place in the world to be looking for work. My only counsel - don't be a passive victim. Hawn and company have already demonstrated both their inability to run schools, and their lack of hesitancy to RIFF with a vengeance. Think creatively about your transferrable skills, and get to work protecting you and your family.

The honorable thing for anyone to do now is to quit. Even more honorable--support the Corinthian Collective in their debt strike.

Before you can change your life you have to want to change your life.

You mean that the Wyotech is only magic for those who realize that change comes from within?

Only one in ten Wyotech graduates get decent jobs. Three in ten graduates aren't interested in working. Another three in ten can't get hired because of a criminal history and or can't pass a drug test. The remaining three in ten graduates get jobs making minimum wage and bounce from employer to employer and leave the automotive industry all together. Less than ten percent of WyoTech graduates remain in the automotive industry within five years after graduating. So, are we ripping people off? YES WE ARE!