@063 and suprisingly all this for no positive effect on retention and pass rate.
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@A sickened FTF: I could have written your post. Adjuncts are tasked with 7 hours of work per class, per week, while FTF must do 15 hours, per class, per week, to meet the bare minimum requirements of the job. Bring on the layoffs. I'm exhausted.
@Adjunct: I was hired from adjunct to FTF. The requirements of the job have changed over the years. Instead of teaching, we are call center, data entry, and counselors. They have also tacked on scheduled group and individual tutoring hours, plus meetings that waste our time. The job is 7 days a week. Incompetent management cares only about numbers on reports. They could care less about their staff and treat them badly. Yes they should have more adjuncts to do this type of crap work. We'll see how you will complain. I am looking forward to another layoff with me in it. Bring it on.
To all of you FTF, this has been a relatively new process of hiring full timers to teach. Prior to that, it was the adjuncts that were teaching. For a while, most of the adjuncts were let go in favor of the FTF's. Teach four classes and you were a full time staff. This was the easiest gig of their careers. Now they're bitching because the golden goose is going to be cut off. The adjuncts are perfectly capable of doing what the FTF's have been doing, since the adjuncts have been teaching since the inception.
Back in the day we were told to "shut up and teach". I think it applies in this conversation as well. It is inevitable that the ECMC idiots are going to get rid of more teachers soon and, that will be very unfortunate and stupid. However, for the time being "shut up and teach".
@101522: Stop preaching nonsense, moron. Many of us know we are going to be laid off. I welcome it and hope it comes soon. The job sucks and we are over it. The PDs and Deans can take over our classes, and see what idiots we deal with (students and upper mgt). The company will fold even sooner.
Mass layoffs and you idiots are still complaining. Your bitching will soon end because you will be gone also. 1500 people lost their jobs and you ignorant bastards are bitching about working too much and not getting paid enough. QUIT and get the hell out you jackoffs.
@ Anonymous101366. Exactly. If ECMC wants to save some cash, they should compare the national average salaries of "college professors" versus those of "call center supervisors," which carries the same skillset, education, experience and duties of our current management. They would find that we are woefully underpaid, while our "superiors" are raking in the cash. Add to that the large volume of students that we manage, long hours we put in, 365 days a year with no weekends off, and the extra activities demanded of us (such as 10 hours of outreach every week and another 5 hours of data entry) that a typical college professor would not be required to do. Finally, most college professors I know have TAs to assist with grading, while all of that work also falls on us. They could easily cut management salaries by $20K and give half to the faculty (before we all get sick of working for minimum wage and jump ship) and pocket the rest. Problem solved. Or, just get rid of the call center mentality and call center management, and hire some people who actually give a damn about their employees and their customers, our students, and have some experience managing an actual school - or any business, for that matter.
@Faculty. As a fellow FTF, you speak the truth. Faculty are treated like garbage, yet not one of the PDs or Deans could do what we do. All they do is sit on their golden thrones and view reports that are not always accurate, and hound you if your numbers are not good (for instance, too little outreach, too few entries in Talisma, too little time in eCollege, too many failing grades, too many dropping courses). We are supposed to teachers but end up pressured by numbers. They are the worst I have ever dealt with anywhere.
That's ridiculous. The full time faculty are the only people who actually do any work. Everybody else just sends emails telling the faculty what to do, or holds useless trainings telling the faculty what to do, or tracks everything the faculty does and tells them what they should have done, or... ...you get the picture. The funny thing is, not one of them could do what the full time faculty does. They are all running scared and trying to justify their paychecks to management by doing the only thing they actually know how to do: Telling other people what to do. They are 100% useless by all accounts. I'm sure they enjoy pretending that they "manage" the faculty, though. They are little more than call center supervisors, and lousy ones at that. There is so much real work to do, and that the faculty could do if given the time and the pay, but instead we are all overwhelmed with our own work, while we watch the work that needs to be done, and should be done by overpaid layers of managerment, go undone.
They need to get rid of the useless, left-over call center management and give the full time faculty a raise, for overworking them, underpaying them, and making them put up with the worst management team I have ever dealt with in my career.
Why? Are they dropping some hints?