Thread regarding ECMC layoffs

Zenith needs to wake up

I have never posted on this board, but read it for fun, but now that I'm out of it, I find it interesting that Zenith still hasn't figured out why the focus is always on these schools. Having been in the thick of things, one factor that is looked at is whether the Instructor/Educator was required to perform Student Services/Administrative functions. i.e. Call and email students to attend classes on a regular basis. It is a factor in determining if the school was in trouble and if they were more interested in money than in education. I suspect Zenith will now be looked at harder because they continue this practice. Real schools don't have Adjuncts/Instructors calling students, there must be a separation between Educating/Teaching and Services/Administrative. You don't see Stanford, Harvard, Baylor, (all private schools), even ITT, CTU, etc Professors being required to call students and you won't.

Zenith can make it (maybe) if they separate functions and get in line with other schools. Professors should only teach.

by Anonymous96422
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OP: Saying that ITT Tech doesn't require it's instructors to do outreach calls/emails is a flat out lie! Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about, and if so no harm, but ITT absolutely DOES employ the same recruitment tactics, forced outreach on instructors, and laying off of personnel with high failure rates as CCi/Zenith have done. I know because I've worked for both (as adjunct and school chair).

by Anonymous96649
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Does one ever think it is time to target a different type of student?

by Anonymous96598
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Zenith needs to close down. Waking up will not do anybody any good.

by Anonymous96584
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OP I think you were better off reading than writing. First of all Harvard and SMU are in a different planet from the Zenith/Everest crap. I also know that ITT teachers call their students as well. Zenith is nothing but a continuation of the CCI fraud to collect money from students who don't have brains to go to Harvard or SMU or any other university. This is all about making money from everyone who is paying taxes in this country.

by Anonymous96529
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Post ID: @miz+Beg0b6T

While I agree that outreach is a useless function, I guarantee you that it is very far down the list ( as in, not in the top 20) of regulatory issues and highly questionable practices that ECMC and other for-profit schools need to address in order to avoid further scrutiny.

by Anonymous96520
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Did you two just elevate yourselves to the level of a Stanford or Harvard Professor? There's a reason you fools are adjuncts of an online school.

Morons are more ignorant than the students you profess to teach.

by Anonymous96510
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Amen! The outreach we have to do as instructors is beyond insane. Every week, the same 80-90% of failing students are emailed, called, texted - with data entry required for each useless attempt. Classes contain 31students and multiply that by 4 classes for instructors - you do the math. That is around 100 students a week that need to be contacted. Nothing changes as these are the same students every single week! It is ineffective busy work.

by Anonymous96444
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