If people give you examples like that stuff was really third class but you don't know what they trying to say just visit Allsctipts India . Its the best example of a third class product or service . The middle management is a benchmark in third class category.
So many dumbshit managers at the same place . No work etchics, no morals , no professionalism , they do not even know how to talk to the subordinates or how to behave in front of the female employees.
Same is the fate of the HR dept .They always live In a denail mode .They do not know anything . Luckily for the employees most of the HR personnel have already left and only a bumb bunch of idiots are still remaining that includes the VP also .
Most of the people have left the company because of their managers and more are leaving because of the same reason. This company is going nowhere .Shit place to work.