Thread regarding Optum layoffs

They hire a bunch of id--ts. Get rid of the goods ones and keep all the a-s kissing lazy ones. That's UHC for you.

Are you anticipating more lay offs under Navi / Home and Community?

Yes layoffs were not just for the navi umbrella.

Massive lay off 1/23/25 under Optum. Entire home health division of Home and Community gone effective 3/3/25 including licensed clinicians and MDs total of > 300. Preservice division of Home and Community - laid off several managers GL 28, director and reviewers GL 27. Many got RIFd. Numbers could be much significantly higher.

?? They had layoffs in Jan

Layoffs were schedule for January 2025 but with the current sentiment towards leadership and the organization they didn’t want more bad press right away. Likely purge coming right before bonuses are to be paid out to save money.

There are way too many assistant Directors and Directors at this company. It out paces other companies. Those people are most often friends on top of it. If you’re going to cut positions I can save you a lot of money and time by suggesting you cut G 29 and above. Instead you target managers who are doing all the work because these id--ts above them make all of the decisions and are friends of the higher levels. Get a clue.

Any one AI chatbot (ChatGPT, Copilot, Gemini, Grok, Claude, etc) will not have access to the most up to date data. They rely on publicly available data, internally accumulated data & data provided by partnerships. Most AI Chatbots have a “Knowledge Cutoff” of data up until a certain date, like 2023. I personally use multiple AI chatbots’ results & compare them.

First, I am not a manager…just another person at the bottom of the Org chart. However, I have read this site off & on since 2019. At the time, in 2019, I read posts back into 2017.

Below information is a combination of summary of thelayoff posts that I have read, personal experience in my Org & publicly available information.

2020 was planned for more RIFs until COVID. Hence, large RIFs were paused in Q2 2020 & then resumed in 2021.

2022 or 2023 (can’t remember), was the start of more significant % of RIFs with 2024 hitting highest %.

2024: Across UHG & Optum, there was a ~10% RIF of onshore. 2024 RIFs included FTEs (full-time & part-time). RIF - Reduction In Force (employees). FTE - Full-time Equivalent. 1.0 FTE - full-time. 0.5 FTE - part-time.

2023 & 2024 had many onshore contractors let go (contracts not renewed), but were not counted in RIF count. Company replaced them with offshore contractors.

Originally, 2025 would also see at least a ~10% RIF onshore target.

Someone on this site indicated that 2025 RIFs may be reevaluated post BT & current public negative sediment. However, I believe they will resume large RIFs to help the stock price. Greed is the only driver of the leadership’s decisions.

I believe this figure was mentioned in company’s earnings call in January 2024: As of December 31, 2023, company had 440,000 worldwide employees. I don’t know if earnings’ calls also mention # of contractors. January 16, 2025 earnings call will likely have the December 31, 2024 employee count.

As mentioned in a recent townhall, 2024 is down to 400,000 employees worldwide.

Do what is best for yourself & ignore all the trolling and noise on this site.

I wish you all the best for 2025.

They should’ve laid you off. If they didn’t they should all insurance companies laid off a butt load of people in 2024 due to the affordable character restrictions that were implemented in 24 and the major Medicare cuts, which actually comes from CMS. They should lay off more. There’s too much fluff.

i hope this is satire cause i know they laid off more than that in my dept alone in 1 single day

Well now that leadership believes AGI has been achieved with Devin they are going to fire all engineering employees in the US and have 1 OGA person per team control an army of AI agents.

This is satire but honestly not far off from the real discussions I hear with leadership teams as a director.