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5 days RTO mandate announced in January?

These are probably just rumors, but I wouldn't put it past them to announce the next RTO , now 5 days in the office, as a soft layoff, just like Amazon did. Has anyone heard anything else?

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RTO was SAP’s way of saying, if you your job can be done entirely remotely, then why not remotely from a low cost country? They don’t want to enforce RTO so much as identify those roles that can be completely filled by low cost country employees. SAP loves how layoffs goose the stock price and repackaging ERP sw will only get you so far. Remember Handlesblatt the German newspaper that always has the inside scoop, reported that stack ranking is coming this year. So stack ranking will use remote working as one criteria for eliminating a role. SAP intends, one can imagine, to have at least 1/3 of the workforce in low cost locations. If you can’t innovate, you cut costs. After all, CK and Dom have big bonuses and they intend to get them. Dom announced that SAP will be run for the benefit of the shareholders- he meant specifically CK and himself.

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@5qzy+1w95om4L

My mo--n manager is enforcing the 3 days RTO as mandated. Except for the half the team in another location because he can't keep an eye on them...

But 5 days RTO won't happen. There literally are not enough desks and building renovations and leases have changed in many locations worldwide so they no longer have the capacity for permanent desks like 5 years ago.

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Post ID: @1hm+1w95om4L

My guess.

I don't think there will be a 5 day RTO. Based on the Comms around RTO I think there'll be a communication around Q2(1 years after the mandate has been started ) about where SAP are with RTO and where SAP need to be. In the background, measures will be put in place to target the non compliant headcount and over the subsequent 12 months the outcomes should be clear enough... Either the location headcount come back to office or the headcount moves to a location that will abide by RTO.

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Post ID: @1hf+1w95om4L

Ahhh, Rumors are always fun, especially at this time of year and even more so when they are coming from losers outside of the company.

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Post ID: @5den+1w95om4L

The RTO was a joke when CK announced it and it was very, very poorly implemented. I am unaware of any teams who are enforcing this as was mandated and at this point the RTO is dead as a doornail. I am not sure why he would have made such an ultimatum without first having the necessary enforcement in place... but that is a story for another day.

So let me be as concise as possible to this rumor: No, Nein, Nej, Nie, Nei, Nope, Natta....

Does that clear it up?

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Post ID: @5qzy+1w95om4L

Never happen... if anything we will go back to a virtual environment way before we would have a RTO...not happening.

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Post ID: @5exh+1w95om4L

We don’t have enough desks

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Post ID: @4yil+1w95om4L

Yes, go join a competitor if they do.

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Post ID: @4tyh+1w95om4L

Sorry but this is BS. Some locations had work from home policies long before covid.

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Post ID: @2pgm+1w95om4L

@1sxc+1w95om4L Yikes, but how come they had fully remote jobs advertised months back? Seems like we got the s*** people.

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Post ID: @2cke+1w95om4L

@1sxc+1w95om4L: Been there, done that. I suspect SAP learned many of its di-k moves - vis a vis layoffs, share-value-by-reduced-headcount, and off-shoring - from Oracle. The culture at this company started its downhill skid when it started installing former Oracle execs in the upper echelons.

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Post ID: @1wxb+1w95om4L

Yes, and if they do, I will join Oracle.

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Post ID: @1sxc+1w95om4L

LOL. If they try this at Walldorf, where the main building is unusuable, it will be a disaster.

The rule in Germany in general is that, unless your contract says otherwise (hint: at SAP Germany it doesn‘t), the employer has to provide a desk within 1 hour, otherwise the employee has a free day off because he offered his service and SAP did not accept the offer. And with so many desks missing…

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Post ID: @1ycu+1w95om4L

Yes. Copy.

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