Thread regarding Enbridge Inc. layoffs

I feel like I can speak for most of us when I say that I hope you get strapped with dr-g resistant sy-----s.

Quiting over WFH rules? A gift from the pandemic. LoL
I hope your next job straps you to your desk 5 days a week.

I know of someone with a 100% WFH exception.

Nope, I requested from my director & HR with a very valid reason, and I stated I would make concessions to be in the office 2-3 times a month and when needed. They all said no with no explanation. That’s why I’m quitting :)

Well, I thought we were being civil. So be it. Luck is not much of a factor. As somebody once said, "Lady luck tends to hang around people who practice a lot." As I said, nobody just gets lucky for 25 years and wave after wave of leadership changes.

You want to wallow in self pity that the fates have somehow conspired to mess you over while lifting me up endlessly? Go for it. See how far it gets you.

I have empathy for folks who have been adversely affected by the many difficulties in the last decade. What I don't have empathy for is fatalistic people.

No - you were just really lucky, that's it that's all. I'm sorry that you can't see your obvious blinders.

"Three of my advancements happened during mergers and outsourcing. I put my hand up and offered to do what needed doing, even when it was outside of my experience it history."

" I didn't just get lucky for a quarter of a century. People don't just get in your corner. You have to show them that corner is the right place to be."

• - previous poster nailed it - bet your promotions were during growth periods. I was
  part of an acquired entity, not in edmonton or liquids. Enbridge Calgary destroyed
  that company. And yes, I did have people on my side and advocated for myself, but
  outside of corporate it's usless as management changes 12-14 months

So did I, and even received stellar peformance reviews and thank-yous for job well done from exces.. No promotions, bonuses even after successful sourcing. Know what i got? An "oppurtunity" to help outsource another department. The VP's/Directors got bonuses.

You sound like one of those entitled baby boomers complaining that no one wants to work hard anymore.

i ki-led myself for years after being acquired, worked hard, greased the palms, worked overtime and got exception performance reviews.

Your mantra is BS, I'm sorry. Your experience is truly luck, and stop trying to say it isn't as 95% percent of the company didn't get promotions those times so YOU could. And i bet 95% of those people were smarter and worked harder than you.

Enbridge: Come for the advancement opportunities, leave when you get laid off!

I appreciate your point. I really do. And yes, I'm in Edmonton, and you make a very good point about options being more limited in some geographic regions. If there isn't a position to be promoted into, yes. You're stuck.

The company made it clear a few years back that promotions were contingent on both the readiness of the employees and the organizational need for that next tier position. And so people who want to continue in their current area of work end up forgoing advancement. My last three position changes all involved a significant change in the nature of my work.

So... it's complicated. I agree with you in general, but I would argue that advancement is still possible - even reasonably attainable. Just not in the old school linear advancement way of the past.

@ 9swb+1vWjRpkp - I’m sure we are all very happy for you, and I do mean that sincerely. I personally know people who are managers, Directors, and even a couple of VPs. I also know that they didn’t start in those positions. So obviously they moved up through a combination of marketing themselves, taking opportunities, hard work/knowledge building, taps on the shoulder, right place right time…etc etc. The fact of the matter is that you got in 25 years ago when the company was growing significantly. The only thing that’s happened to this company of note since I’ve came on board, a decade ago, are several large scale lay offs. The most crushing of those being BOEF (building our energy future) which slashed our management structure to the point where movement is stifled. If you are in a location like I am that has limited opportunities, i.e., somewhere that isn’t Houston/Calgary/Edmonton, and you can’t move for family reasons, then you’ll find that you are pretty much stuck where you are performance be damned.
Sorry for the rant. And this was the guy who was complaining earlier about being a high performer who finally gave up due to broken promises.

"and don't tote some BS about 'opportunities during mergers - there are not unless you are that top)"

The fact that you believe that might be part of the problem. Three of my advancements happened during mergers and outsourcing. I put my hand up and offered to do what needed doing, even when it was outside of my experience it history. I literally told people, "I don't know how to do that, but sure. I'll get it done."

"Some just get lucky. Sounds like you either had the right people in your corner or were in the right place at the right time... you sound like the fabled 1% of any company that had luck on your side"

My leadership chain changed out many times. I didn't just get lucky for a quarter of a century. People don't just get in your corner. You have to show them that corner is the right place to be.

Not only have I been promoted, I have promoted others. Even during the "freezes". It just took a bit more work.

Declaring it luck or referring to them as the fabled 1% is just offloading all responsibility. It's classic self fulfilling prophecy.

I know people are here to commiserate, but there are many people you can point to that show your description is not the experience of everybody.

I wfh every day, no problem from my director. The three union clerks in our group do not.

"I don't get it. Since starting in 1997 I've been promoted... 5 times, then two lateral moves with bumps."

Some just get lucky. Sounds like you either had the right people in your corner or were in the right place at the right time. Also - remember mergers don't always work out well for career progression. CEO's are risk averse due to earnings and personal wealth / reputation on the line - which leads to less innovation and investment in talent and more towards things like M&A. These things destroy people's careers (and don't tote some BS about 'opportunities during mergers - there are not unless you are that top)

you sound like the fabled 1% of any company that had luck on your side.

WFH are one of the only things that make these jobs tolerable any more - let's be honest, most of the jobs are pretty much drivel any more. All the interesting work gets outsourced, and most of are just stuck on calls with partners. Can't go to work at those companies either, as our management have negotiated slave wages for those companies and they are barely paying bills now.

I don't see 2025 changing much.

"It never got me a promotion"

I don't get it. Since starting in 1997 I've been promoted... 5 times, then two lateral moves with bumps.

I, II, III, Senior, Team Lead, Supervisor, Manager... then other roles by choice,

I don't know how you managed to stay in the same band,

I’ve had 3 high performer ratings and 1 exceptional rating and all its ever got me is more work with small raises. Although I will admit that the bonus tends to be significantly better…probably not worth the effort though. One things for certain it never got me a promotion. Oh well, here’s to broken promises and becoming so jaded that you’re forced to half a-s your job to make yourself feel better.

Sigh.... I remember the one year I scored an exceptional performance rating. Less than 3% of the company earn this coveted rating! My reward, you ask? A whopping 1% merit raise! Oh, then I got laid off..... So much for the meritocracy theory at ENB. Anyone else miss AM? Let alone PD? GE, not so much......

last poster: Says MYOB, then: "everyone should be in the office anyways".

take your own advice.

high performance is a myth - there is no meritocracy anymore - where have you been? It's all BS to get you do more for less - social engineering for the 1% of execs at the top of ANY company. Besides - is being an in office high performer worth it??? raises are garbage any year regardless, and anyone buying into that type of culture anymore that is make a $1M + Year with stock options with minions out the hu-ha to do all their work.

the only group of employees that gets enriched is director level and above - and half them were just promoted into those positions based off being besties with a VP.

enbridge and all other companies are not going to do away with WFH, because they know very little of their arguments make sense in a modern economy. Besides - how can you say the high performance = office culture when 50% of the company is outsourced?

I agree mind your own business and worry about yourself and not others. Everyone should be in office anyways. If they are not is it none of your concern. Grow up and stop acting like a spoiled child.

Wfh and good performance have zero correlation .

Like someone said MYOB

Axing the poor performers and accommodating the high ones sounds good until you try to actually identify them definitively. Then it becomes a nightmare. Your best workers are often not the most productive statistically. And you'll never get everybody to agree of an objective way to make a subjective determination.

Besides, that's not really the point. Some highly placed people believe that the performance of the whole achieves its best outcomes through co-located collaboration. Whether you agree or not isn't important.

It's tempting to think they really are just trying to get people to quit, but it's not that simple. They understand that the best people often have options, and they risk a brain drain.

Exactly just axe the poor performers and accommodate high performers that give a sh-t about the work they deliver and actually have good work ethics

what ki-ls me about the whole WFH Policy changes is instead of getting rid of the bad actors, management decided let's keep those poor performers and up the policy to punish the high performers.

Should be going in full time. Covid is over.
Flexibility during snow days sure. Otherwise get to the office.

Would also be curious to know how many exceptions there have been given for coming into your assigned office.

Wow you sound like an a**hole with a chip on your shoulder. This is an anonymous place to share questions and concerns. Maybe you should try reddit. You would find friends there.

You sound like a troublemaker.

"Well so-and-so in XYZ group of the 123 biz unit is getting it so why can't I?!!"

MYOB