Thread regarding Cargill layoffs

this will be unpopular

Hi colleagues, this is going to be an unpopular post here. And for the record I am not from the family, or leadership, HR, or comms. Just a regular old Joe. The company does not owe us a living. At the end of the day, we entered into a transactional contract. Our time for a salary. The whole "we are a family" talk about values is what every company does. If we believed it to the extent that we now feel betrayed, that's on us. Surely we cannot be that naive. They did not promise us lifelong tenure and anyone shocked at being let go based on how long you have been there, is just delusional. The company exists to make profits, and we can debate how much profits should they make to be "fair", but is that something you would personally do? And if I were completely honest with myself...some of us, myself included, were excess capacity. I have been done with work at 2pm on a weekday. I know other colleagues who regularly log off mid afternoon to pick up their kids and never log back. Are we all truly fully utilized to the number of hours we are actually paid to be present? I would say first that I was not in corporate. Maybe in the plants where you clock in/out that's different.

No doubt the process could have been better managed, the leaders could be less wooden in their messages, and this is very upsetting. But maybe we could just move on with this reality if we accept that this was all along, a contract we entered into, and no one promised us lifetime employment and some of us were indeed excess capacity.

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It has nothing to do with being owed a living. Costs needed to come down. Decisions were made too far away from the business, not by leaders who know how the business actually operates day to day. The message was delivered in a very cold manner. If it had been done differently, people might understand or be able to move through it more quickly. But it wasn’t, it was decided and delivered in an extremely cold manner and approach

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Post ID: @3bmf+1vW65Ie8

The people you described ate still there...most hard workers laid off..

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Post ID: @1qii+1vW65Ie8

I don't disagree but who failed? Was it the workers that didn't have enough to do or poor leadership that couldn't steer the ship and should have seen the downturn 4+ years ago and started making smart moves to manage the team? Your post makes it assume that it was the workers that "decided" to leave everyday because they were lazy versus the honest truth is that Cargill leaders couldn't lead us out of this problem and thus creating the workers not having enough to do? IT jobs dried up because leaders couldn't strategize about high value/quick wins to make us more efficient and deploy software that could have helped. I for one won't take the blame for losing my job....

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Post ID: @1chy+1vW65Ie8

Let's be real. Cargill is now the largest privately owned and publicly ran company in the world. That is definitely a change from my long tenure. You own your career. Keep your resume updated and always be looking for opportunities inside and outside of the company. I can say for a fact that leaving and coming back gained me the largest pay raise of my career at Cargill.

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Post ID: @1bui+1vW65Ie8

Agree there were many jobs like yours in corp that added no value, many of them. Your jobs shouldve been cut long ago. The problem is many hard working people in jobs out in our plant, where the money is actually made btw, were impacted. People in useless jobs like yours, and all these dei type jobs are what had caused us to become fat. Now everyone suffers for it. Meanwhile we still have a racist dei leader position. Its a joke and so is this company. Im a high performer in my businesses eyes. Not anymore, im now putting in less effort now. F em and F the cargill MacMillan family. And if i hear one more leader tall about how we are "caring" for those impacted im gonna lose my sh-t.

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Post ID: @1dxr+1vW65Ie8

Opinions are like a***oles, everyone has one.

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Post ID: @1eof+1vW65Ie8

Successful companies set the expectation of the amount of work to be completed, then let you choose how to complete it... Need to clock off early, or go pick up your kids... No problem as long as the work gets done.

That is how it was working for some of the high performing teams.... Was...

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Post ID: @1hlc+1vW65Ie8

If the decisions were unbiased...

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Post ID: @1zjy+1vW65Ie8

Anyone remember "Hire to Retire"?

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Post ID: @1big+1vW65Ie8

I think most people are very loyal to their work and how they add value, esp those that do add alot of value. Now that those ones that were rock stars are gone, how on earth is the company supposed to progress, maybe limping along.. or standstill.

So the anger people feel, the injustice you read about may be that people know these decisions were made without a single thought to how the people left behind would be able to cope or manage.

Its not about a contract, or an expectation of a job for some people. Not saying that doesnt come into it but its a lot more than than which you are missing.

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Post ID: @1jeg+1vW65Ie8

I am also looking for a job now. No one owes you a job. We accept and live in the #1 capitalist country but when it happens to me i now hate the profit motive? personally for me righteous anger stands in my way of accepting and moving on. that's all. no disrespect to anyone and how they are grieving.

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Post ID: @1xgg+1vW65Ie8

It’s not just unpopular; it’s completely naive. Cargill used to promote long-term employment relationships—it was one of its core values, at least for those who had been with the company for a significant period. That value has now been completely abandoned. The company is reshaping itself to become more predatory than ever. You might see yourself as "excess capacity," but in their eyes, everyone will eventually be considered expendable—except for a select few individuals kept for appearances in the U.S. Meanwhile, they will continue to prioritize low-wage, low-skill workers (and, at times, even illegal or child contractors) for exploitation, as they already do in occasionality in their meat plants.

The “contract” you’re referring to—at the rate the company is heading—is only going to foster a culture of toxicity and distrust. The transactional nature you defend undermines any notion of mutual respect between employer and employee. Additionally, your comment defending the company’s practices will likely fuel resentment among your coworkers, especially those striving to maintain a work-life balance in an increasingly hostile environment. Perhaps it’s worth rethinking your privileged position, as it may not last long—unless, of course, you’re among the minions of the leadership team.

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