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GM shutting down Cruise

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/12/10/gm-cruise-scraps-robotaxi/

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Post ID: @OP+1vVcOj8k

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Well, we assured they're the best and brightest.

They'll solve the problem in no time.

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Post ID: @65m+1vVcOj8k

"We are 100% still working on multiple autonomous vehicles right now."
Haven't we been working on 100% controlled fusion too right now and in fact for many many decades. Hmm, I wonder how much of that work is farmed out to India since the cost there is much much less.

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Post ID: @632+1vVcOj8k

@61t+1vVcOj8k

They are in early development. Too soon to say how they will turn out or if they will get canceled or not. GM has invested big money and time in it so I really believe these vehicles will see production. I can’t say more than that obviously. There’s a very early AV in the Henry Ford Museum. We have come a LONG way from it but it’s very interesting if you get the chance to check it out.

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Post ID: @61w+1vVcOj8k

Are the AVs you're working on any better than the ones we see on the streets from Cruise, Waymo, etc.?

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Post ID: @61t+1vVcOj8k

"I think that they just found out that the autonomous vehicle area has a lot
of propaganda associated with it. And they were su-kered into wasting money on it."

I work in engineering. We are 100% still working on multiple autonomous vehicles right now. GM may have shut down Cruise but it's still committed to autonomous and electric vehicles.

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Post ID: @61c+1vVcOj8k

"Even Tesla doesn't have self driving working."

Tesla is a stock scam. It is worth 4x more than Toyota
but sells 1/10 of the cars.

Who is Elon? You mean the guy that has 11 kids, cheats at video games, smokes dope,
and loves cheap labor. This person sounds like a teenage banker.

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Post ID: @60z+1vVcOj8k

Even Tesla doesn't have self driving working.

Right now, they have to report self driving accidents to the government.

Elon and Trump say they're going to eliminate the reporting requirement.

Because that violates Tesla's privacy.

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Post ID: @6nug+1vVcOj8k

"GM made the right decision to cut the loss and get out when you can't compete."
Isn't that why GM bought Cruise in the first place.
I think that they just found out that the autonomous vehicle area has a lot
of propaganda associated with it. And they were su-kered into wasting money on it.
To make up for that money transition they will probably have to cut more productive workers.

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Post ID: @5zwo+1vVcOj8k

Is your "they" the SLT?

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Post ID: @4dve+1vVcOj8k

Oh my, who could have seen it coming? I am absolutely flabbergasted that we couldn't make money on AV and EV in this cycle. I mean the talking heads said it was the future.

Smells like a 2008/2009 Fed repeat. Who could have seen it coming they say?

Answer: They don't ask for permission, they do, whether it makes sense or not. When sh*t fails, they claim ignorance. That's your tell.

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Post ID: @4osf+1vVcOj8k

Except they had already burned billions by the time they figured it out.

If the SLT was smarter they would have cut their losses years ago.

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Post ID: @3gnm+1vVcOj8k

GM made the right decision to cut the loss and get out when you can't compete.

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Post ID: @3dda+1vVcOj8k

@1etn+1vVcOj8k
“ You never want to be at the bottom of the list.”

Some people enjoy being a bottom and we shouldn’t be shaming them for it.
Everyone has a place in our society.

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Post ID: @1lum+1vVcOj8k

@1nxw+1vVcOj8k

That's what stack ranking is all about.

You never want to be at the bottom of the list.

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Post ID: @1etn+1vVcOj8k

@axp+1vVcOj8k

The culture of hatred you describe is unfortunately very common at GM and has been for quite some time. Imo this will contribute to their (second) undoing. Too many folks focus on how bad they can make someone else look rather than just working on their own tasks.

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Post ID: @1nxw+1vVcOj8k

Coincides with Tesla's self-driving AI car announcement yesterday.

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Post ID: @1jik+1vVcOj8k

I worked at Cruise as a SW dev for a while

I don't use the word "toxic" much but I would describe my time there as something like the Stanford Prison Experiment

I've never seen people treated so poorly

I had four different managers in a year. They all started off nice, then they were dragged into he-l by their managers and turned into monsters

I knew they would never succeed, too much literal hatred in the air

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Post ID: @axp+1vVcOj8k

They are experts in word salads, elitism, and woke terminology. Not so much in engineering acumen.

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Post ID: @ghv+1vVcOj8k

I told GM not buying it in 2016. However, nobody listened to me. A hard lesson!

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Post ID: @csy+1vVcOj8k

I had the unfortunate experience of being involved with this autonomous BS. The only thing that the people in San Francisco wanted was GM’s money. When we tried to help out technically with actual vehicle dynamics knowledge we were rebuffed. In the end the majority of GM people who worked on that program had their careers significantly altered, cut short or ruined. I’m surprised that GM took this long to realize that the whole idea is a pipe dream. Thanks MB for wasting so much money, time and energy on this particular wind mill and good riddance to Cruise and its cast of arrogant id--ts.

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Post ID: @ntf+1vVcOj8k

If you ever dealt with the people there, their egos were way bigger than their talents.

They thought they were hot, but didn't know what they were doing.

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