Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Lots of histrionic posting about the eminent demise of Intel, but that is unlikely outcome.

Reality is that the company still has plenty of revenue and just needs to scale the Foundry and Products to better fit the addressable market (not some fantasy market where everyone comes back to Intel).

The Product side has gotten back on the latest nodes and retains impressive enough design capabilities that numerous companies are interested in a buyout.

Foundry is caught up or at least closer to TSMC and is now transitioned to EUV, the delay of which was the real issue. Foundry mgmt already gets that they need to be cost competitive and that too much excess capacity was added for what is likely to be slow and steady foundry adoption by internal and external customers.

Foundry can improve its chances by being broken out of Intel, even if that is an IPO or partial sale where Intel retains majority ownership.

Products can improve their chances by getting the government to allow them to be merged with QCOM or AMD, and some other companies for the smaller divisions.

The only obstacle to all this was just 'refired' by a board that is out of patience for any solution that tries to get the old Intel back. Those days are gone. Time to move on.

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Post ID: @OP+1vPp7adB

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How could anyone confuse Intel's yearly revenue with NVIDIA's quarterly revenues?? smh..

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Post ID: @1nbf+1vPp7adB

I don't know. I'm starting to feel the new admin will find a work around to dumping $8B into a dysfunctional organization that can't get it done. Don't be surprised by this option

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Post ID: @1kmc+1vPp7adB

Clearly there are one or more posters who enjoy making inflammatory statements.

One can guess they are cheerleaders, but just not for Intel.

But the reality is that the company is not going under. It is merely facing the point where it needs to be broken up to change the path it is on.

Plenty of value in the company, it is just mismanaged, and none of those managers has in their self interest to make the company smaller, because then they would lose their job or compensation.

So it is up to the market to force the issue and the market will drive down the stock price to the point where shareholders revolt and fire most of the board.

When you see that, it is time to get invested, because value will be unlocked as the company is broken up.

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Post ID: @1hfo+1vPp7adB

Intel, where revenue is up, but earnings are down. Only Bain Capital could pull that off.

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Post ID: @1atg+1vPp7adB

@1hzt
Wake up.
This isn’t 1999 anymore.
Nvidia is way bigger than Intel in all dimensions.

Revenues
Earnings
Market cap
Cash flows

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Post ID: @1qyb+1vPp7adB

@1hzt

$54B for Intel?????? hahahahahahahaha

try 13.2B with -0,46 EPS.
but yes NVDA did get 35B/.81c

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Post ID: @1apy+1vPp7adB

Intel earned $54B last quarter, NVDA barely managed $35B. Yes, despite all the histrionics, Chipzilla is far from being written off. It's still the 800 lb gorilla in the semiconductor market space.

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Post ID: @1hzt+1vPp7adB

Counterpoint

  1. Intel is NOT caught up with TSMC and NEVER WILL due to economies of scale.
  2. AMD and other competitors like Qualcomm, Apple, Nvidia, Mediatek will have access to superior nodes at TSMC and can beat Intel even with inferior designs (which is actually not the case today as their designs are also better).

Going IDM with a process deficit is just su----e.
The TSMC ecosystem will eat your lunch.

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Post ID: @1ipz+1vPp7adB

Classic middle manager logic

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Post ID: @1evt+1vPp7adB

If the OPs remedial diatribe of most of the knowledgeable financial analyst is correct then there would be NO need for a removal and replacement of the CEO. Of course you are grossly misinformed. Did you EVEN look at the Q3 financials? LMAO..bankrupty is the next stop pal.

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Post ID: @1nmz+1vPp7adB

Did you drink all of the kool ade? Things aren’t just a little off. There is no save all solution on the horizon. The impact of the most recent brain drain is yet to be felt. Q4 will see more losses and more layoffs will happen.

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Post ID: @pmi+1vPp7adB

That's all good, except there is no runway left.

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Post ID: @ptb+1vPp7adB

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