Thread regarding CVS layoffs

This is a troll post.

I work from home and take the privilege very seriously. I don’t even flip a load of laundry during work hours. If someone has a mouse jiggler, shame on them. They should be fired. I barely have time to use the bathroom that is 6 feet away. There are ways to check employee performance.

Try WFH in the clinical appeals dept that's on insane metrics. Basically, work all day taking no lunch or breaks with unpaid OT (exempt), to meet numbers, unless of course, you're one of the golden RN's who get the easy cases handpicked for them. Favoritism at its finest.

You're really bad at trolling. You have several tells that make it easy to see which posts and responses are yours. You might want to work on that.

All three depts I've worked for, starting with CSR and up to Grievance, are full time WFH and their performance is closely monitored. If you aren't doing your job it's quickly noticeable. Maybe those people who get away with doing nothing aren't doing anything important and SHOULD be let go.

I've been working from home for years, prior to Covid. I get so much more work done at home. No interuptions, I'm not walking to the cafe 6x a day, I'm not being interrupted to hear gossip or talk about peoples problems for an hour at my desk. Nothing irritated me more than listening to people crinkle their chip bags or scrape the bottom of their yogurt. I also don't like listening to vendors on the phone all day.
My job is basically entering data into the system. I don't need to socialize or collaborate. I do my job and do it well working from home.

I don’t see how doing nothing at home is any different than doing nothing in the office. Unless you have someone standing over your shoulder all day in the office, then you can get away with the same thing there.

I’m in senior management and spend most of my days working and collaborating with others, so I’m in the office 3 days a week and meet in person when possible because there is value-add for me being there. Not every position is the same. I have analysts on my team who are not making business decisions and are instead working on essential and crucial reporting and outreach to external vendors. They have little reason to be in office outside of periodic team meetings. If anything, being in the office every day would hinder their productivity and serve little value on top of the valuable work they already perform. If I have concern with someone’s output or the quality of their work, they get treated the same as anyone else that may be in office.

No one is working nonstop 8 hours in the office. Instead of “mouse jiggling” they are wandering around, “looking busy”, texting, chatting, etc.
The mouse jigglers are the exception and I think the post is trolling, the English is very poor.
Anyway, instead of wasting time commuting and looking busy in the office, people who WFH can throw in a load of laundry or have lunch with their toddler when things are slow. The horror!
What matters are your deliverables and outcomes, not where or when you achieve them. You’re telling on yourself if you need to be in an office to feel productive with your work (or life).

I do agree not all WFH employees are bad but I also do hear and know a lot of then just using mouse jigglers and do nothing all they. I even met my coworker on my day-off and we even had lunch at the mall. He told none would know as he turned on the mouse jiggler at home. I ended up ordered one from Amazon so I could save all my PTOs and did not have to take pto anymore. Overall we all just got by until CVS file for chapter 11

this post is the same people trolling, only they've managed to clean up their writings skills a little so they don't sound like they're 12 year old boys. I have worked remotely for quite a while now. I am able to get a lot more done at home, and my team works very hard to deliver.

I've been wfh full time for over 15 years. I find it more productive than being in office. No constant people walking up to your desk. No talking of others around you. No wasting time having to walk to the other side of the building to get a cup of coffee. No wasted time having to travel to and from office and being able to spend more time working.

Ahhh yes because a bunch of people walking aimlessly around in circles in so productive.

If your work is performative you might be a clown.

WFH/Metric based. Every single thing you do in my dept. Is monitored. And if something is done incorrect, the hawks come out and get you back in line, immediately.
I absolutely hate this place.

I do agree about the mouse jiggler part. The senior analyst I am working with, now became manager, did tell me before about what brand to buy and how to buy the one with random interval to hide from IT tracking.

This thread is a catfish thread but for sh-t and giggles I'll respond.
Aetna and CVS have the ability to track everything you do, from the clicks, to the phone calls, to meetings, to any software you open and the amount of time you're actively in them.
There's not many roles these days that's metric based without a time study or automated.
With that said do I believe your colleague who sat on his a-s and lied to his boss about how long it takes him? Yeah I believe it especially if all he does is clean data without analysis. Do I believe he has an incompetent, lazy, and ignorant boss? Yeah I believe it. We put a lot of LDs, Sr Mgrs, Executives in roles that they have zero knowledge of and they trust the lazy unethical worker because they their selves are lazy to check the software that reports what their reports been up to all day. Mainly due to them their selves have no time to check as these leaders are in back to back meetings all day.
I've seen Informatics straight up lie to Health Plans leadership on how long it will take them to clean state files, and upload it (never doing analysis), and to generate "reports" to their customers. Straight from the mouth of a Sr Informatics implementation Manager, "I tell health plans it will be done in a week or two when it actually only takes me three days tops, because I don't them to always expect a three day turn around because I don't want to be on the hook".
Not every leadership and worker is created equally with work ethics but there are pockets of really good teams that love to be productive and like to prove lazy a--holes wrong.
That's why this new leadership needs to shake the roaches out and optimize as many systems and departments as possible. Regardless if it's hybrid or remote. Btw this Informatics person was based out of the old Aetna Cotton Center location full in office with leadership that didn't do sh-t.

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If a WFH employee isn't performing satisfactorily then get rid of them -- it's as simple as that. Their output should be no more or no less than in-office employees.

I've worked remotely for the last 5 years with 3 of them at CVS and 1 of them in the capacity of a manager. I've never had issues motivating myself to get stuff done. I've also had stretches of time where I've done absolutely nothing (mouse jiggling) which is no different than when I did absolutely nothing in a purely in-office role during slow stretches of time. Most of us are not widget maker clock punchers on an assembly line, so the output and quality of work should be judged appropriately and people who slack during "nose to the grindstone" time should be cut.

One size fits all is a mo--nic oversimplification and those with talent and skills will leave ASAP for greener WFH pastures -- at CVS I have seen this play out multiple times from senior analyst level to all the way to VP.