Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Going back to the office is a career ender for some folks. Not because of entitlement, or neurodivergence, or commuting costs, or global team disbandment.

It’s because 3M has promoted some of the most toxic, useless, petty people to leadership. Having to interact face to face with my demonic, power tripping, sr brown nosing champion of a manager is a no go. I’ve been 100x more productive the past 4 years by not interfacing with the braindead .com leadership crew.

I’m sorry but you folks who ramble on about 10 to 12 hour days every day need to learn to delegate. Thinking you are all that important by putting in all those hours will get you nowhere but unemployed.

I work my @55 off from my home office, often 12 and never less than 10 hours a day. I get up and go directly to my computer and work pretty much without a break until I give up for the day from exhaustion at this broken company. I always took the view that my lack of a commute was to the company’s benefit. I’m fine with RTO, but not giving the company any more of my time. Not a single minute.

Gotta think about the positives. It has been 4 yrs since i got freaky with a coworker. I am a master with the ladies and can easily bag a few per quarter, so im looking forward to some face to face time

To all the people who are saying that those who work from home and prefer it are lazy, you're not seeing the point. Most of us work on large global teams where we're the only ones in our country. Our jobs are mostly transactional online or we have to be heads down and focused so we don't make mistakes. We wake up at 5 am to take a call with another country, work, take a short break and then back online for 8PM for more calls with people in APAC or another region. Saying we're only working if we're at the office is absolutely atrocious and short sighted. The fact is, we have moved to be global with with many people working from sun up to sun down with breaks in between to allow us to also be humans. We are working more than our 40 hours and if we are going back into the office, we won't be working outside our hours. Or at least, I won't be putting in the extra hours due to the removed flexibility.

I am dreading coming home to then have to get real work done. I am not a role that lives in meetings. Maybe 1/3 of my calendar is meetings, nearly all with folks not in MN. The rest of the time I am ba--s deep in excel, powerpoint, power bi, you get the idea. My function has 1/4 the hotel troughs ready for the population within 50 miles of Maplewood. I am not sure where I am even going to sit. And to do actual collaboration are we standing around one another’s desks as conference rooms will go quick? Then how will our global peeps hear us with all the background noise? My boss was in today and I could barely hear him, it was all garbled he said the wifi was atrocious. I would at least like to see a suitable setup but this shoddy cram-it-in-before-2025 is maybe just the kind of disheveled mess I should now expect from mother mining.

Just older people like the “ASD sales Giraffe” listed previously trying to go backwards in time instead of looking to the future. No innovation or forward thinking at all. Let’s spend all week chit chatting over coffee va actually getting work done. Let’s try to do things we tried 10-20 years ago that failed, maybe they will work this time! Sounds about right. Those who just show up and show face think they accomplish the work when the rest of us work crazy hours at home (even when we go in) to get actual work done, while everyone else takes the credit. Other than networking, no one gets work done in the office there. If you say they do, your either ancient or you never worked there

All the naysayers on this post are either boomers who work for 3M or just like to troll sites because they are bored in life. While SOME positions could benefit from daily in-person interactions, many of us would be coming into the office just to show our face and network all day long. Good bye productivity. As someone who is required a ton of focus and almost 100% computer work for my job, going into the office 3x a week will equate to significant reduction in ACTUAL work productivity. Having coffee talks and walking around so people see your face actual productivity, boomers. My global team will be broken apart and segregated due to this, the only people I actually work with. So sitting all day in a focus room or finding a quiet desk in the basement for ability to focus is what is in front of me. Working from home enables productivity for many people. Those who assume WFH = lazy are probably lazy people themselves, very outdated mentality. Most of us work our tails off at home and enjoy the quiet focus time that it enables to actually accomplish our hard jobs. Obviously some positions would benefit from more in person interactions, but to label that for all is ignorant

All the people complaining about returning to the office are the ones who the company should have let go. You have a good job with good benefits. Go into the office, work a full 40 hours like you're supposed to. If that's really too much to ask, then you really need to sit down and re-evaluate your life. How dare they ask you to show up.

Crazy how a company that is paying you a salary and benefits can put such demands on employees. Really? When you’re not your own, isn’t this how it works? MR made a huge mistake in rolling out so quickly and so definitely WYW. He created a LOT of entitled people who feel the company needs to cater them now. Lots of companies are back the office or making changes.

Time to put on your big boy pants and get back to work. WYW would be a death sentence for any company, this is why BB needs to quickly eliminate the people who generated the policy. PG wants people back 5 days a week, he's right!

BBs comments in the huddle were so contradictory. First stating acknowledgement of the global nature of our teams and next breath joking about a 3pm innovation session. Does he not understand that global teams mean our innovation partners are also global? Who are we innovating with? Just like minded individuals who happen to sit in the same location?

3M should drop talking about how we are accomodating to neurodivergent people and all for diversity and inclusion if they are droping flexible and trust based working areangements. Being in the office with people you have no business connection to (and that is the case for most smaller locations and international teams) is an introvert nightmare.

How much time did you spend coming up with that headline… u have a future in marketing, zozo

The RTO idea is half baked and outdated. Looking at my work team, my manager is remote and so are most of the people reporting to me. At most, 1/3 of my team could be co-located on site. With such a low percentage able to physically be together due to the remote hiring that's been done, doesn't seem worth it considering time lost plus the cost for commuting to an open office environment that's actually counter productive to type of work we do. Going into the office feels old fashioned now that my team has adapted and is effective working remote.
Also, with the cube hotel concept is not good for productivity if my team. Give people dedicated office spaces that support focused work, sensitive discussions and so we know where to find each other for those spontaneous live conversations we used to have when everyone was in the office.

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My job is mostly focused, heads-down work. Trust me that I can focus on my job a lot better at home than in the noisy, distraction-filled environment of an office.

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No, you are mistaken. It may have started because of the pandemic, but they announced it as a permanent change, just as the way we work from here on out. So much so, that they sold our office in my country, because we didn't need it anymore. Now because of this, they're going to have to sink a bunch of money into buying or leasing a new building, in addition to wiping out the productivity gains we made from WFH. None of this makes sense.

If you are unhappy with the arrangement, my suggestion is just Quiet-Quit. Follow your director or senior manager instructions and return to office. But just be physically presence but mentally checked out. They won't know either way. See how it will turn out if majority of us does it.

This whole WYW update has been poorly rolled out. I told my manager I will not be returning to the office. He said, “I don’t care either way, just keep doing your job.”

So which is it? We are required to be in or is it strongly encouraged?

Working from home was never a permanent thing you all knew that it was a result of the pandemic.

If you don't like it then leave and stop complaining on this forum. You're lucky it's not 5 days a week yet.

All other MN based companies are already doing 3 days a week. The entitlement is crazy.

Said it many times. VP Sales giraffe in ASD is here all the time and the guy hasnt hit a number in his career. Literallg been a disaster since he made vp. Just bulldozes everyone and spends time pacing the halls in the quad

Mass non compliance. Just don't go in and see what they do.

It has nothing to do with "the older" generation. It has everything to do with going to your place of work and doing your job and focusing on your job - people confuse work/life balance. A third of your day is working, a third w/family and a third sleeping or whatever. Grow up.

One question. Can we wear our PJ'S into work?

The greatest thing: I’m doing calls in the morning with Asia and with the Americas in the afternoon/evening from my location in EMEA. Just had a call at 8pm yesterday, no problem. How do they think I can do my (global) job the same way when commuting to the office for 2-3h a day? I’ll not do 14 hour workdays.

No one being forced to work some place where they don’t feel valued or heard. WYW should have been positioned as temp/short-term (another MR miss). Now everyone is feeling entitled to it. Public companies need to show growth and deliver results to Wall Street and they are trying different things. Three days is not a bad compromise. Good to get out in the world and interact face to face with humans occasionally, even if they are not in your day to day work group.

Su-k it up buttercup! You can always leave if you don’t like it!

The older generation came up the ranks in an environment where you were rewarded for how much time you spent at the office, not how efficient or productive you were. You stay late all the time? You come in on the weekends? You must be an exceptional employee.

The extroverts miss being around lots of other people all day long.

Also they need to justify the costs of having all those buildings.