Dont give in, Boeing can afford the pension and the next offer will have the pension. Dont fall for this lame offer.
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Boeing wastes most of its money. It can afford what it need but it mismanages what it has. All the DEI hires prove it. Teams that once were 5 people now have 7 or more to accommodate the useless DEI hires. Boeing could cut the staff by 30% eliminating the DEI hires and be better off for it. All those DEI hires do is slow progress and pollute engineering processes.
There is also a manager for every 15 people instead of perhaps for every 35-50 people. There is a senior manager for every 1-5 managers. A director for every 1-5 Senior Managers, and a VP for every 2-7 directors. Boeing is top heavy and could use a 75% cut in management staff.
Many believe pensions will be restored. If you just lose a few more paychecks the no guaranteed benefit of pensions will magicly come back.
This is commonly known as PDS, Pension Derangement Syndrome
In a bankruptcy, pensions are one of the last things to be funded. Money goes to debtors first. What's left funds the pension which is transferred to the US Government (nothing can go wrong there right?) in the form of the PBGC. At best you will probably get 50% of what you would if the company stayed solvent.
If you or someone you love has PFS, please seek professional help. I good slap back to reality is in order.
Only a fool would take this deal now wait my fellow brothers and sisters we will get what we out to achieve
The Boeing lie of no money. Vote no again. We can achieve more benefit wise.
Thats absolutely right, they can't hold out much longer. And every offer they have made has only gotten better, so I agree it's best that we hold on for the pension
Go home Kelly. You don't need to post your propagada on this platform. You will still get your golden parachute.
Delusional, yeah keep on hurting the company, so the big boys come in and clean house. Then where are you going to go?. Everyone on the site, think, and use your brain
Boeing is $45 Billion in debt. They cannot afford reinstating the pension. Take the current deal. It is not bad.
26 a month. For at least 2yrs. Sorry. Chopping block coming. Nature of the beast.
The current strike length hasn’t even hit the average length of past strikes.
Average length is 58 days. We got a way’s to go yet.
Greedy fu--s. You're essentially being compensated as well or even better than engineers when including ot (engineers don't get time and a half). Seriously, look outside of boeing and see if there is anything that will compensate you with half of what you are getting now. Why did I ever go through all the headache of getting a engineer degree when I could have just been a lazy mechanic who hides half the shift. I'm sitting on 5 patents right now, but all the reward money is locked up due to you lazy fu--s. My overdue promotion is also frozen. Seriously fu-k you.
knee grow please!!!
The next offer will be 40% layoffs you id--t.
Dream on....smh
Delusion.
If all of you are sooo smart and knows boeing's numbers in and out, show me where in their fanancial statement that say they can afford it.
I bet you cant even look up where this information is or even know how to analyze it
Clowns