Does Citi actually support internal mobility? I’ve never heard back from even lateral positions that need my exact skill set. I’m wondering if these positions are real or do they just post internally for rules sake.
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Focus on something more valuable such as peace of mind. Sometimes that’s mobility internal at Citi, sometimes its mobility external away from Citi.
If your manager or team is toxic, try to move, period. Search for both internal and external jobs elsewhere.
It's real only if you know an Indian higher caste manager. All those job postings are fake!
Department of Labor must look into Citi job postings! Citi HR fires citizens and hire H1B, L1 people. This is a serious issue in Citi. They do not understand the caste system.
You CAN transfer internally. It's just that at Citi the hiring process takes a long time AND you need to apply to tens if not hundreds of jobs.
I applied for a job (amongst the many other jobs I applied for) in Citi in May 2024. I got 3 interviews for the same role/job in June. Do you know when Citi finally gave me a job offer ?? In September ! 5 Fvcken Months later !
Other posters on this site claim to be from HR, and even they said they've lost job candidates along the way because Citi's hiring cycle is ridiculously too long !
If I were an external job candidate, I too would have bailed on Citi.
Post ID: @j5x+1v0rypmL Yeah 12 months is a long time to be stuck in a role that doesn't fit for you. You can Not even tell your current manager how you feel and that after 2 months after transferring into your new Citi job, you would like to search for a new internal Citi job.
When the shoe is on the other foot and the employer deems the new employee as not a good fit, you can be sure that the employer is secretly or not so secretly interviewing your replacement.
Your only option now is to job search for a new external employer because you'll be stuck for 12 months in Citi in a job you hate, and end up getting 4 Ratings or worse, PIP.
My manager is a fear monger and says internal mobility gets a frowny face from higher ups. Yes. They think people are that stupid to not to know what trick they are trying to pull. Lol
Post ID: @j5x+1v0rypmL That's an @ssinine stupid policy, but then this is dysfunctional Citi.
At many companies you only need to be in your current role 6 to 8 months for transfer eligibility. 12 months is a looooonnngg time to wait.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I recently transferred internally to a different Citi department.
I dont like the job partly because the hiring managers lied on the job description.
I'm only 2 months in this new job,but from the way it's going I can see myself ending up on a PIP or getting mid-year Ratings of 4 or 3 at best. PIP or 4-Rating would make me ineligible to transfer again internally.
The Employee Handbook says employees need to be in their current role at least 12 months.
Are there any exceptions or loopholes to this?? Has anyone else encountered this problem ?
If there are no exceptions, my only other option is to start looking for an external new job/employer.
Post ID: @nui+1v0rypmL Not being permitted to skip a Level, for example VP to Director, SVP to MD, encourages employees to seek jobs outside of Citi and usually at Citi's competitors.
If Citi's competitors deem these employees as capable or qualified to be hired at the 2 Levels above job, then Citi is losing out on and chasing out the qualified employees who can actually fix Citi's problems. It's Citi's loss and Citi is Sh00ting itself in the foot for having such Fvcked Up "Human" Resources policies.
It is a joke and a waste of time. There's just using internal people to check of boxes for their metrics. They'd rather hire externally and someone less expensive with zero expensive.
To the OP: Internal mobility in Citi is LIE, unless you find the list below acceptable and palatable. Compared to Citi's competitors of which Citi is forever envious and wished to emulate, the list below is the opposite. In Citibank/Citigroup you will get:
- Zero salary increase if you transfer laterally even to a New Department unrelated to your current Department (e.g. Commercial Bank to Internal Audit, etc.): VP to VP, SVP to SVP, Director to Director, etc.
- At most a 15% salary increase to get promoted One-Level up from your current level: AVP to VP, SVP to Director, VP to SVP, etc.. Be aware that 15% is the maximum, which means Citi will probably give you only Dog Food / Dog Sh!t increase of 1% to 15% at most. And in the current dysfunctional, feckless Citi environment do NOT count on getting a 15% salary increase. New external hires get at least 20%. You're better off quitting Citi for greener pastures and as CEO Insane Jane said, "Get off the CitiTrainWreck !".
- Citi employees are NOT permitted to skip a level in order to get a better salary increase: VP to Director skip SVP, SVP to MD skip Director, etc.. You can Only do this if you get a New External Job, NOT in Citi at a New Employer.
- At most Only 20% of employees will get promoted to the next level each year, AND Citi "promotes" employees Only Once per year. Note the words, "At most 20%". This means Citi and your "managers" can choose to "promote" LESS Than 20% of the employees.
Because of the above list, it's NO wonder Citi can NOT retain and attract quality employees. Birds of a feather flock together and Citi can only retain and attract the Potemkin Village of Feckless !d!ots (some are rejects from Real Banks like JPMC, GS, MS, etc.) who for years have been spinning their wheels buried in Consent Orders after new additional Consent Orders, MRIAs and MRAs collecting them like numismatists!
There's a poster on this site who claims to be from HR and said that one level up transfers get only a 15% salary increase and lateral moves get zero. This is a disincentive to remain in Citi and the only way up is out of Citi. Also, I heard Citi does Not allow internal employees to skip a level, for example SVP to MD, skipping Director; VP to Director, Skip SVP. So the only way you can get promoted to 2 levels above and get the higher salary is by applying for new External jobs with a new Employer, Not Citi.
The only employees who choose to remain in Citi are the Low Caliber ones who can Not get better jobs outside of Citi. Thus, the vicious cycle continues where the Citi Potemkin Village of !diots can Not retain or attract quality employees who are the ones who can actually Fix Fvcked Up Dysfunctional and Destitute Citi.
It makes NO sense and there's NO incentive to remain in Citi for Citi's bread crumbs 15% salary "increase" and 0% lateral moves. So for example if you see a Citi job posting with a salary range $150-$200, and your salary is $100, the most you'll get is a 15% or $15,000 salary increase! Yet, Citi will hire an External job candidate at the maximum $200 ! This is truly FVCKED UP! But then we're talking about FUBAR Citi ! by Anonymous Post ID: @3vcwa+1ritECny
Due to RTO, internal mobility is extremely challenging. Geographic loads demand that particular roles are only posted in specific sites that need that level in that seat. It makes the whole "we work better in the office" a joke, because even though I am a manager in IL, I may have to hire in TX. So if you can't find the exact role, in the precise location and already have a ties into the network of the hiring team, it's not going to happen. And if you are a telecommuter, don't even bother applying. Despite many folks being orphaned from site closures, there is no exception process. None of the above contributes to finding the best candidate for the job and as a hiring manager it severely limits your talent pool. Citi is working backwards. But hey, they are filling seats to help stave off the commercial real estate fire sale.
Hi relatively new to Citi ..got into a typical sh---y team, can someone please help where u see the opening for these positions?
It used to be but after the implementation of the Bora Bora, it is almost impossible. If for example the main location NYC and it says other locations most of the time is ruse and the post is exclusive to that location. Before if the post said Tampa and you lived near a strategic location in the state, such as Jacksonville or Ft Lauderdale you would have been considered and allowed to report at the location nearest you. That's no longer true. The plan is designed to make people quit without giving you a package and to retain valuable staff with promises of more opportunities to then be kicked to the curb once you outlive your use. And yes they are some "ghost postings" but most jobs posted already have a candidate who has been pre-selected, they may pick a couple of individuals to be interviewed because legally they have to.
Unfortunate truth is that, they dont believe Internal resource, if some one apply they think you are not worth thats why you are moving.
Corporations nowadays only say they promote internal mobility to tick a box. No one cares whether they hire internally or externally anymore. I have seen this at Citi and at other top banks. Just the way it is. Also, for corporations it is much better to hire externally - that way they can exploit the informational advantage they have and sc--w new hires with pay / grade / level / promotions / literally everything. Tbh Citi is not that bad compared to other top institutions - and I think that is part of the problem here - Citi promotes internal people who managed to somehow infiltrate the institution but lack abilities and would not survive or be hired anywhere else.