Thread regarding Fidelity Investments layoffs

Offshore Data Management

Long-time EE here.

I remember when almost everything was onshore and data governance was extremely tight and well managed.

Offshore changed all that. Now, so much is unreliable. Never thought I'd see Fidelity come to this.

Offshore management and workers practice discrimination against Americans. Just look at the org charts and it's obvious.

Offshore is all the time coming up with quality initiatives. Very discouraging since they are the source of almost all the quality problems. Here's a quality initiative I could get behind. Move 90% of tech and data management back onshore.

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Post ID: @OP+1uyhneDP

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Here, now you know why China is not a good fit for us. Just hilarious:
https://www.ferretingoutthefun.com/2013/12/04/best-chinglish-signs/

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Post ID: @1bht+1uyhneDP

On-shore? Maybe the offices are onshore but if you look at many of the tech teams the talents all can be traced back to their offshore starts. How Fidelity got onshore and offshore blurred is beyond me. I hate to use the word 'they' but they bring their education, experiences, cultures and work ethics onshore and it has a name: Jugaadism. Expediency over the strive for excellence. Short over long term. Show over work. Managing up over standing your ground...

Politics aside, I like the model of off-shore manufacturing to China better. Like a football, Americans controls the two ends of the value chain: design and sales. The Chinese does the manufacturing cheap. With clear spec and quality control in place, whether they speak English doesn't matter. There are clear boundaries between on-shore and off-shore. You don't see Chinese overflow Apple's Cupertino office. Can IT off-shoring be done the manufacturing way? I don't know.

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Post ID: @1uhv+1uyhneDP

Fidelity is a stodgy/boring finance company that is only able to recruit average tech talent required for its trading platform.
With AI and data modeling based trading becoming more popular, we’ll see how Fidelity holds up against the “new” finance companies.

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Post ID: @1wdn+1uyhneDP

"You get what you pay for"

that is ALWAYS the case..... anyone who thinks otherwise is a Bean Counter with no insight into the quality of the work being performed period.

I spent a $hit-ton of time cleaning up messes made by "not getting what we pid for" which of course costed way more in the long term

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Post ID: @nol+1uyhneDP

A major, major incident will be required before anything changes. It’s only a matter of time.

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Post ID: @cki+1uyhneDP

I'd say average offshore China hire is working at an English level equivalent of a first grader in the USA. You get what you pay for.

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Post ID: @puv+1uyhneDP

Among every people there are the best, the good, the bad and the worse, onshore or off-shore. Fidelity's pay determines we can't get the best. Don't know how Fidelity pays off-shore but probably we're getting the bad and worse. With big tech such as Google started off-shoring, we're going to lose the good of Fidelity's off-shoring.

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Post ID: @oxp+1uyhneDP

C suite would rather have cheap bad data than pay American workers what they are worth to keep things above board. It only matters if financials must be restated, but that will probably not happen if your auditors are also offshore.

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