Try being over 50 and applying for jobs. If you are not among senior employees, you still have some chance of landing a new position. We, on the other hand, have an extra obstacle that's making it almost impossible to find a job. I'm saying this in case you're wondering why older employees are overwhelmingly staying while younger ones are leaving. It's not a matter of choice for many of us.
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A lot of companies won't hire over 50s even if they're willing to take less money. They believe they'll either leave as soon as something better comes along, or won't fit in with the culture, especially if being low paid means being young.
Why is there no class action on this? It’s pretty obvious this is happening.
It is not age problem but pay problem. Take a pay cut and you can find a job.
Ageism is "real" is a self fulfilling cliche. A tiresome generalisation.
Has the same vibe as women who succeeded must have slept their way up.
Many non-hires are not because of age. Take a good look at yourself and be honest.
Ageism is very real, regardless of legality. But the flip side is - as you get older, more experienced, most people expect to make more, which definitely makes it harder to find a job. I think an effective organization needs to balance experience with youth, new ideas. It’s clear that Dell is targeting older, high wage earners. It will be interesting to see how things go. New ideas is great, but Dell has always su-ked at process, it’s always been tribal knowledge. They are wiping out the tribe.
Job market is like a pet shop, everyone loves the puppies and kitties. The older house broken cats and dogs that don't claw and eat your furniture just do not get them same attention. Oh sure they will tell you there are laws against it - but it is harder to land a job in general.
Depends on who is hiring - and older recruiter may see you in a more favorable light, but the law of nature favors the young and cheap in general.
Do not lose hope - it may just take a little longer and you may experience a cut in pay just to keep up with those young ones.
Good luck !
"Age thing isn't as bad as it used to be."
Correct is is literally illegal in USA.
It's actually not that bad as long as you are still relatable and marketable.
10+ years and dell lifers have a hard time coming to terms with this. It's that perma small town mindset that is pervasive.
Age thing isn't as bad as it used to be. Actually, I've seen it more on the younger folks, especially newly graduated from college. Dell lifers if they didn't maintain their external networks / contacts may have difficulty.
Age discrimination force is strong in Asia 😡😡
When considering a job switch to see if the grass is greener on the other side, it's important to keep in mind the statistics—there's a significant chance your situation will align with these figures. For those over 50, statistics indicate that it can take twice as long to find a new job compared to younger workers. While the average job search takes about 5 to 10 months, for those over 50, it might stretch to 10 months or more. This challenge can be especially daunting in the fast-paced IT sector and depending on your geographic location.
However, as the global population ages, with economic uncertainties and the retirement of the baby boomer generation—the largest workforce in history—the odds of finding a job could improve after careful consideration. Long-term dedication to a company can showcase stability and loyalty, qualities that are highly valuable and can serve as a strong advantage when competing for new opportunities.
There should be a disclaimer on how many years each poster spent at dell.
I did 2.5 years and was ecstatic to be out.
During my stint there in RR, I noticed a lot of Dell people were pretty much unambitious.
The longer they stayed, the more they fell into the stereotype.
I couldn't put my finger on it other than liken it to a small town mentality. So take a lot of the advice and outlook on this forum here as such.
50+ stick around as long as possible, or be willing to relocate and get hunting bc it's a roll of the dice trying to finish a career at Dell or being a newbie at a new firm
"For people in their 50s the best thing to do is to stay where they are"
no. market ebbs and flows.
should ride out when job market picks up. else you are just sitting there waiting for the sla-ghter.
I think we need McFly to take the DeLorean to a cool 88 mph and let us know what the next two quarters will bring to our budding AI empire.
For people in their 50s the best thing to do is to stay where they are and prepare for retirement. They are not welcome on the job market and should keep doing what they have done in the past.
Yes it's definitely an obstacle. Its also hard for juniors with little or no experience as well.
I would point out it has less to do with your age and more to do with the decades you spent becoming a dinosaur working at Dell.