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Concerns Regarding Recent Changes in HP Supply Chain

Dear Reader,

Today is October 11, 2024, and I wish to share my concerns regarding the ongoing changes within HP Supply Chain, where I have dedicated the past 12 years of my career. As a manager, I find myself increasingly anxious about the implications of the impending closure of the San Diego facility. My family and I had planned to relocate back there from Spring, but that prospect has now diminished.

It has been three weeks since a few managers and directors convened for a Zoom breakfast to discuss the current challenges within our organization. A primary topic of discussion has been the initiative led by Ernest to diversify leadership roles within the company, which seems to prioritize the hiring of underrepresented individuals at the expense of existing leadership.

Recently, two individuals from Rockwell Automation were hired, replacing white male managers, and an acquaintance of Ernest’s from Nokia has been brought on board to replace another white male in the CREWS division. There are already indications that this individual may be positioned to ascend to the role of VP of CREWS, replacing Cliff Wagner within the next year. While the specifics of CREWS may not be widely understood, it appears clear that a significant shift toward a diversity-focused leadership structure is underway.

Regrettably, I was unable to attend the Supplier Summit at the Woodlands Resort, but I have observed the photos and feedback from colleagues. It was striking to see that all presenters at the awards ceremony were individuals from underrepresented groups, with no white individuals featured on stage. This has led to concerns about the broader message being conveyed—that HP Supply Chain may not be a welcoming environment for white employees, particularly white males.

For context, I am a white male with a strong commitment to my work, a family, and I have been informed by my director that advancement opportunities within Supply Chain are becoming increasingly limited. Ernest has clearly communicated that the priority for filling positions is to support African American candidates, followed by women. While I have great respect for HP and my role within Supply Chain, it has become apparent that my career advancement may necessitate a transition to another department or potentially leaving the company altogether.

Our CEO has emphasized the importance of HP as a respected organization. However, the current climate raises concerns about perceived nepotism and reverse discrimination that could undermine our credibility as a leading employer.

I took time to reflect before sending this note, and after discussing it with my supervisor, he affirmed that my observations are valid, leaving the decision to share this perspective up to me. Many of us feel a growing sense of instability within the organization.

Additionally, I have conducted some research on the recent hire from Nokia. It appears he has a history of short tenure in previous positions, which raises questions about his suitability for the role. A colleague of my wife’s, Jamie Leary-Erickson, who previously held a senior position at Nokia, indicated that he was encouraged to leave, suggesting that there may be underlying issues with his professional performance.

Thank you for considering my perspective. I hope this feedback can contribute to a constructive dialogue about our organizational direction and values.

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Post ID: @OP+1uWy4N12

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Yall, I think we have standing for a class action discriminatory law suit. We are stronger in numbers. Also, the black employees are paid to go to sooooo many conferences. HP supply chain seems to only invest in and promote the black employees.

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Post ID: @ypqx+1uWy4N12

World's Best Employers: HP was ranked #54 in 2024
Can't be that bad survey says that every is happy 😁😁😁😁

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Post ID: @pvig+1uWy4N12

Is there still a supply chain? Too many org changes this last week I have no idea. Also Ernest seemed mad/stressed in that call where he was clearly texting the whole time. I hope he is taking advantage of unlimited PTO and resting!!!! It’s challenging to say a whole lotta nothing all day every day!

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Post ID: @mxnx+1uWy4N12

DEI mentality

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Post ID: @kfcx+1uWy4N12

Anyone else understand wtf Ernest just said on that meeting? I swear he doesn’t even know what he’s saying.

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Post ID: @jjxk+1uWy4N12

I also had to negotiate not getting a pay cut as a CW for the past two years now. It’s odd because before then I would get a decent 10% raise per year. I think it’s because CWs get laid off if their salary is too high.

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Post ID: @ihyg+1uWy4N12

I feel so bad for the CWs and regular employees. We are all getting treated terribly. We should all unite.

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Post ID: @htqd+1uWy4N12

HP Ferrari and the c suite robots are the only thing winning in this company.

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Post ID: @heug+1uWy4N12

You are lucky to even get a raise. For the past couple years as a CW I had to negotiate myself out of getting a pay cut let alone a raise.

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Post ID: @hfqd+1uWy4N12

HP pays like absolute garbage. I have several degrees and I am looking for a second job since HP raises don’t align with COL. This company is ruining families by giving us 1-3% raises. I can barely afford food for myself and my family.

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Post ID: @hbtr+1uWy4N12

A few months ago I got a teams call at 5am and thought I was dreaming only to start my workday realizing that it wasn’t a dream and that my coworkers actually thought it would be ok to have me work around that time. I swear being a CW at HP is bs. Too bad I can’t find an another job. Having HP on your resume doesn’t do much in the current job market.

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Post ID: @efro+1uWy4N12

with the number of emails i’m getting from management about reorganizations they might be about to send me a text at 2am asking to reorganize my insides

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Post ID: @edke+1uWy4N12

That’s why Ernest was hired. If we get our money and work ethic up to the same level as him then we’ll get laid for sure.

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Post ID: @bhty+1uWy4N12

Not that many people get laid off at HP so there isn’t much data on the average salary and tenure of those laid off.

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Post ID: @bklz+1uWy4N12

“What's the average tenure and salary of a laid of HP employee or CW?”

Let’s see, I’ve got that here somewhere and will post it on this public forum…

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Post ID: @btjy+1uWy4N12

What's the average tenure and salary of a laid of HP employee or CW?

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Post ID: @aktj+1uWy4N12

How long have you been working at HP and how much do you make? Depending on your answer you might get laid off sooner than you think.

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Post ID: @aypc+1uWy4N12

IM SORRY BUT UNTIL I'M LAID OFF I WONT STOP STATING THE OBVIOUS. HP IS GREAT!

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Post ID: @aplj+1uWy4N12

Dude, chill. This is a sc-t company and you won’t stop defending them. People have been laid off and it will continue to happen. To say HP hasn’t laid anyone off this year is incredibly foolish. Wishing you get your 3% bonus this year. Ciao.

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Post ID: @aavo+1uWy4N12

The answer is because meta is a better company. Quit yelling and go back to work.

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Post ID: @abzv+1uWy4N12

Nov. 22, 2022, Enrique announced workforce reductions of 4,000-6,000. Since then, periodically, many employees have been laid off. These lay offs do not come with an announcement as that is bad PR. If HP lays off employees slowly, and under a certain number, they do not have the obligation to report. But please, continue defending a corporation. HP (and corporate America) needs folks like you - people who don’t question anything.

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Post ID: @axcj+1uWy4N12

IT IS NOW "NEXT WEEK" AND NO LAYOFFS HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED!

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Post ID: @arng+1uWy4N12

I hope Ernest is having a good Friday night. He deserves some time off, that man sends WAY too many AI generated emails.

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Post ID: @8jns+1uWy4N12

"Imagine the next comment I’ll be sharing on this thread when no layoffs are announced next week."

You are arrogant and immature. HP will conduct layoffs through at least 2025 which equates to 60 weeks of time for potential layoffs to be announced as of now and beyond "next week" or after 2025. We don't need to imagine the type of comment that you plan on sharing because it will be pointless. Working with people like you makes being laid off sound like a benediction.

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Post ID: @7mfk+1uWy4N12

Imagine the next comment I’ll be sharing on this thread when no layoffs are announced next week.

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Post ID: @6lxr+1uWy4N12

Imagine: October 2024, you’re a wage slave too busy working on slide deck fonts to know about the big announcement about to drop next week.

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Post ID: @6bie+1uWy4N12

Imagine: October 2024, it’s another beautiful day at work because not so many people were laid off since 2023.

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Post ID: @6elv+1uWy4N12

Imagine: October 2023, it’s a nice crisp fall morning. Your manager tells you to come into the office (before RTO) under the guise of a team lunch in the overpriced cafe. You walk in through the parking garage and see dozens of people crying with boxes of stuff. All before 8 am. You then lose half your team. No mass layoffs my a-s.

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Post ID: @6een+1uWy4N12

All the new diversity hires can question was I hired because I am qualified or because I checked a box? We all will know the true answer in time.

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Post ID: @4cqb+1uWy4N12

There seems to be a deliberate push by Ernest and others to create a workplace where they are all friends, with no focus on the actual work and product. The issue is that there is a complete culture of fear out of leaders, where everyone must praise Ernest and no one can stand up to him.

What’s next at this company, hiring cat people?

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Post ID: @4lqu+1uWy4N12

LOL at all the boot lickers down voting anything negative here. These are probably the same people who come to the office to escape their families. Sad, sad lives.

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Post ID: @4men+1uWy4N12

Enrique’s nephew works in spring office.

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Post ID: @4lje+1uWy4N12

Ernest, you seem to be only focused on black people because you are black. That is wrong. There are a lot more colors and ethnicities in the world. Not just yours. I am proud g-y Asian Man in Spring and always overlooked.

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Post ID: @4jim+1uWy4N12

I'm writing to express my concerns about my experiences as an Indian woman in the Supply Chain workplace at HP. I often feel excluded from discussions or find myself being spoken over by some Black colleagues. While this may not apply to all individuals, I have observed a pattern of disrespect towards Indian employees by my black coworkers. It is particularly disheartening when I hear imitations of my culture. I am not the only Indian feeling this way but we don't make waves. We shut up and do the work.

Additionally, I feel that my concerns may not resonate with certain leadership figures, particularly if their focus is solely on maintaining favorable relationships within a specific group. I have strong feelings regarding our current Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives, and I believe they may detract from a more merit-based approach that emphasizes productivity over identity.

I also have reservations about the dynamics within our team, especially concerning certain individuals who seem to favor a specific demographic. This was evident at the recent supplier summit, which struck me as unbalanced and not representative of our diverse workforce.

At the supplier summit (or should I say the award ceremony specifically), we (my table of Indian and Asian Suppliers) couldn't help but notice it felt like a P Diddy music video—three Black guys and one Asian woman. Seriously, you can't make this stuff up!

Ernest, what the he-l are you doing?

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Post ID: @4zsv+1uWy4N12

Does anyone else find it troubling that when they're mandating a certain hiring method for a particular minority group that they're not allowing other minority groups to be included for that inclusivity?

Sure, it's great to hire more blacks but what about the Hispanics? the Middle Eastern? the LGBT? and so forth? Did we forget those people exist as well? Jeez, HP... Who's discriminating now?

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Post ID: @2svx+1uWy4N12

Watch this " Interview with Dan Kotchen, Attorney for Plaintiffs in the H 1B Visa Trial Cox v. Cognizant "

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Post ID: @1icy+1uWy4N12

By the way, WHO IS TODD?

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Post ID: @rez+1uWy4N12

To The OP, Join Us at WS! We just want the best works and F DEI.

At WS, we prioritize flexibility, autonomy, and a culture that fosters both productivity and morale. As Dave Schull aptly puts it, “F Supply Chain.” If you're seeking a workplace where you can work remotely, on your own schedule, and experience a collaborative, supportive environment, WS is the place for you.

I’ve been with WS for three years now, and it has truly been a remarkable experience. We emphasize a hybrid work schedule, allowing our team to work efficiently while maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Our morale is strong, and our customer satisfaction reflects our hard work and dedication. We’re delivering outstanding results, and we’d love for you to join us in this success.

In contrast, when I visit the Supply Chain side, it feels like you’re operating on one of those ancient Greek triremes. In these ships, rowers were positioned in three tiers, each with a specific role, creating a rigid hierarchy that limited individual freedom. The Thranites (top row) had the most authority, the Zygites (middle row) handled the bulk of the work, and the Thalamites (bottom row) were positioned to follow orders with the least autonomy. At the top of the ship, the officers gave the orders, often without much regard for those doing the heavy lifting below.

This analogy seems to mirror the current structure of the SC side—where the Directors, as the Thranites, hold decision-making power, the Managers, like the Zygites, manage the operations, and the front-line employees, the Thalamites, often carry out the directives with little room for flexibility. Meanwhile, VPs and Ernest appear to sit at the top deck, overseeing everything with a top-down approach.

At WS, we believe in empowering our team at all levels, encouraging innovation, and giving everyone the flexibility to excel. If you're looking for a fresh start in a more dynamic, flexible environment, come join us at WS!

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Post ID: @aeg+1uWy4N12

Just become a culture vulture so you can wash away your concerns. If you can't beat them, join them. Nawhatimsayin?

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Post ID: @zew+1uWy4N12

I need clarification regarding your earlier note about recent changes within the team. Are you saying that Cliff, Todd, Meenesh, and Deep are leaving HP—could you please confirm this? Additionally, I would appreciate any updates regarding Todd's situation. Is he ok?

I find it challenging to keep up with all the changes at HP during my retirement, so this tends to be the best place to catchup with all the coffee talk.

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