I do not think it is fair that all of these C-Suite personnel get to telework and I am told that I have 6 months to move to what is called a core location. I am a sole contributor and I don't understand why I am being put in this position. I hired on as a teleworker. My boss said it is a courtesy. They could rescope by position and send it overseeing but they are offering me an opportunity to move to Houston Texas. I am not moving.
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That’s wild, I know CWs currently being hired in states with no offices.
I work from home but was never told to return to office. Sounds like they just don't like you and want you to resign.
"I see a lot of jobs being advertised as “remote” but they really aren’t “remote” jobs. I applied to a few “remote” and the interviewer will usually ask if you are willing to relocate.
“This is often not the company's fault. Lately LinkedIn and Google Jobs advertise a lot of jobs as "remote" even though when you double-check the company site they are hybrid or onsite.”
I applied for a “remote” position during the pandemic. The interviewer did acknowledge that the position was “remote” but still asked me if I was willing to relocate. At first, I was confused by the question, but then I realized that the employer was going to order all employees back to the office after the pandemic.
"Do you have a link showing that?
In the state I am in 'remote' work is under the same rules as "on location" work. If hired as a remote worker, you are a remote worker and the company cannot change that at will, without the employee's consent. "
It must be explicitly written in your contract with the employer that you were hired to work remotely and permanently. During covid it was an emergency to work from home, and sometimes managers allow you to work during normal times from home if the company gives them the privilege. Look in your Offer Letter and all the documents that you received from HR. This has nothing to do with your state laws: it must be written explicitly in your contact with HP that you were hired as a remote worker and your office is your home.
They can still terminate you however if they want to force you into an office but must pay you severance if you don't move.
P.S. After Covid, some HR and other employees in Vancouver, WA, had modified work agreements with HP that they could permanently work from home. Engineers could not.
"GTFO with your troll post. You're obviously slow. Same day, same lines.."
You are the same A-Hole troll hired by HP to bark like a dog at anyone who says anything negative about HP. You are all over this board and downvote people multiple times every day and upvote your own posts. Pathetic, loser, crybaby HP shill. Take your own advise you piece of you know what: GTFO.
GTFO with your troll post. You're obviously slow. Same day, same lines..
"This travel policy at HP where the C-Suite has"
"I do not think it is fair that all of these C-Suite personnel get to telework"
Either salty, a liar or mentally ill. My vote is all.
"Remote work is ruled as a "privilege" by courts and not a "right."
Do you have a link showing that?
In the state I am in "remote" work is under the same rules as "on location" work. If hired as a remote worker, you are a remote worker and the company cannot change that at will, without the employee's consent. It is also not grounds for firing if the employee refuses to come to an on-location site due to distance. Of course they can "lay you off" and give another excuse for cutting you loose, other than the remote work location.
"I know several states that will not allow companies to demand relocation unless the location is within 50 miles of your current employment location. "
Remote work is ruled as a "privilege" by courts and not a "right."
The 50-mile distance only forces companies to pay 60 days severance in some states.
Find another job, work both jobs, collect two paychecks, let the HPQ job suffer, then bounce for the new job without telling them. It's what many Costa Ricans have done.
Check with your state unemployment office regarding the law of demanding relocation. I know several states that will not allow companies to demand relocation unless the location is within 50 miles of your current employment location. Some states also have laws on the books regarding remote workers while other states are trying to catch up on laws regarding remote workers.
"I see a lot of jobs being advertised as “remote” but they really aren’t “remote” jobs. I applied to a few “remote” and the interviewer will usually ask if you are willing to relocate. That’s when I shut down the interview. Sorry, I’m not selling my house and moving across the country, hoping that I don’t get targeted in the next layoff because some dill weed in upper management hired too many people."
This is often not the company's fault. Lately LinkedIn and Google Jobs advertise a lot of jobs as "remote" even though when you double-check the company site they are hybrid or onsite.
LinkedIn is doing this to generate traffic by showing the jobs as remote (to trick people to apply and then they follow the companies that they apply to, and LinkedIn sends them ads on their feed).
Always go to the company site and make sure if the position is local or remote. In fact, even many remote positions now expect you to live in certain states due to payroll and other factors.
I see a lot of jobs being advertised as “remote” but they really aren’t “remote” jobs. I applied to a few “remote” and the interviewer will usually ask if you are willing to relocate. That’s when I shut down the interview. Sorry, I’m not selling my house and moving across the country, hoping that I don’t get targeted in the next layoff because some dill weed in upper management hired too many people.
My condolences. I wouldn't bother trying to dispute it. It's clear the company doesn't want you for your contributions. A lot of companies during covid said, "Oh you can work remotely on a permanent basis." and then after covid, they changed their mind or simply lied in the first place.
It's not personal. They're simply just trying to tell you, "Our building is expensive. Use it or else..." It's not your problem. Even if you did move, how can they guarantee long term employment for you? It will only create an awful view of your manager because every conversation you have, you'll be thinking, "They are/were about to fire me."
HP, alongside with other OEM companies like Dell or Lenovo, are simply struggling in their PC market. They're in a very vulnerable state right now. It's highly too risky to move, even if you wanted to. Looking at HP's forecast, it's not good. It's not terrible but just simply at future projections, they're going to layoff a lot of people. They simply lost their gamble that AI will save the day. I think people are starting to realize the true nature of AI hype: it's not real.
"I don't understand why I am being put in this position."
Sorry to hear about your situation. Just ask AT&T and IBM employees--the most convenient way to fire employees and NOT pay them severance is by forcing them to relocate and making sure that they refuse.
AT&T forced thousands of employees to relocate with only 25% being offered relocation. It is just the way it is as far as the C-Suite is concerned. Your jobs will go to India and Singapore.
The job market is very bad right now, so I would highly encourage you to start looking.