Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

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Coming to a town near you. That’s right, you can see first hand where your hard earned profits are really going. Well, besides managements bonuses. Enjoy.

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@4jio-Show us on the doll where the “angry little railroader” hurt you.

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Post ID: @4wgi+1tYVlKQo

Wow, not any love and kindness on this thread . I hope everyone will take walk, relax and turn off the anger.

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Post ID: @4vch+1tYVlKQo

4rvg+1tYVlKQo I gotta say, you are an angry little man. PSR does work. ICRR did not liquidate or bankrupted, they merged with CNRR. Hunter Harrison started implementing PSR with the BNRR and he honed the skills. The main goal of the railroad is to move freight from one place to another. It should never sit for longer than 24 hours at a yard waiting to be classified. That's where the railroad makes it's money. The Class 1 railroads of today took that and instead of implementing a backup as Hunter Harrison did, they just cut and cut. Hence why the railroad industry is in such shambles today. They took operating as low as they could to increase their profits. Let me reiterate, the original PSR was not about CUTTING, but to utilize every asset that the company has and GROW the INDUSTRY. What I don't really understand is that everyone is angry about what UPRR is doing. I'll give you a little history lesson. Back in 1995 and 1996 when UPRR bought CNWRR then bought SPRR their entire system came down to a stop. The reason for this is that UPRR in thier great wisdom thought they knew how to best run the entire railroad and did away with the people from SP and CNW, this continued for awhile. In fact to prevent a buyout, they offered the employees 200 shares of stock. To show how ignorant you really are. This entire PSR as I stated before has been done many times in the railroad industry. I imagine you are ignorant when it comes to reading about history, UPRR was not the first to start to push companies that didn't supply enough carloads out. That would be Conrail. When Conrail was created they only wanted the bigger carloads. So you see as I have said before PSR has been around as long as the railroad has been around. Infact President T. Roosevelt fought with the railroad tycons to try to limit their power.
Now as I said I was furloughed back in 2020 for 6 months. I also said I'm a 3rd generation railroader. I knew hiring on that furloughes happen. I knew that hiring in. I expected that and had money put back. UPRR has provided a great life for my family and continues to. I DO NOT AGREE with everything that the railroad does, but I work for them. If you have 2 Bachelors degrees then why are you crying like a child. Here's another history lesson for you. The only recent railroad that went completely bankrupted and wasn't consolidated into another railroad was the Rock Island. The north east railroads were going bankrupted but the government created Conrail which implied Consolidated Railroad. Illinois Central Railroad did not go bankrupted they were merged into the Canadian National Railroad. The accident which you said was due to PSR is infact false. If you want anymore history lesson just let me know. Evidently those 2 bachelor degrees didn't do anything for your intelligence.

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Post ID: @4jio+1tYVlKQo

@2xko ah, are you mad? You talk about intelligence, and yet you can't even spell correctly. My best advice to you would be to leave your spell checker on, because you obviously have a problem there. Please tell the rest of us how PSR worked for the Illinois Central? What's the state of their business? Oh that's right, THEY DON'T EXIST BECAUSE OF PSR! PSR bankrupted the ICRR into liquidation. If YOU were smart and educated then you would've known that. You are in fact at the very least blatantly ignorant. At least get the facts straight. PSR did not work at the other RR's. If it did, then what was the purpose of the congressional hearings that ALL of the class 1's were involved in or did those not happen either? I need to point out the massive contradiction in your post though. You say PSR worked at the other RR's, but failed to mention the UP or the CP in the list accomplishing the PSR goals. Did PSR not work at those or are those still works in progress? If PSR was great then you would've mentioned them and probably wouldn't have been furloughed. You said it was great on paper and worked at other RR's though. Wasn't PSR supposed to help with the growth of the railroads? OOPS, the UP has ANOTHER hearing slated in a month to answer for why the carloadings are down. Are you aware that PSR initiatives is what caused the oil train wreck that almost wiped an entire town off of the Canadian landscape? You're on here attacking people for the hatred towards the company, but you never mention how great the UP is. You also said the railroad furloughed you and the family, but also said the railroad is providing for you and the family. Ok which is it? If the railroad furloughed you ,then how is it providing for you? If you want to post on here, then that's your right. I really would consider making sure you have ALL of the facts before you try to start a false narrative. The two easiest ways to control thought is through the manipulation of speech and information. Just think about that for few minutes. I actually have 2 bachelor's degrees. So I'd say I'm well educated. Maybe not to you, but at least I can spell "their" correctly, use it where it's necessary, and not omit words completely in a obviously self-righteous post. Don't attack other people on here and call them unintelligent or uneducated, and then fail to use any of it yourself. It makes you look like the very thing you're calling everyone else.

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Post ID: @4rvg+1tYVlKQo

I was dedicated to my railroad, until my railroad was no longer dedicated to me.

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Post ID: @3uco+1tYVlKQo

Sorry, the last post was aimed for @2mnf, not @2ezs.

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Post ID: @3pcu+1tYVlKQo

@2ezs-All of your posts here have only one upvote. You must be voting for yourself. Keep on telling yourself you are God’s gift to the railroad, nobody else believes in you.

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Post ID: @3lsn+1tYVlKQo

2ezs+1tYVlKQo that's the saddest excuse I've heard. A company can not make you angry and have hatred towards them. That anger comes from your own stupidity in life. UPRR has had many ups and downs, but I'm not angry at them. So that is just garbage. You like alot of employees were angry when you hired on and instead of taking responsibility for your attitude, you blame a company for making you angry. Just because things have changed and it's nit your liking, doesn't mean it's there fault you're angry. I don't agree with everything that UPRR does, but I'm not angry at them. Its what makes me a man and you a boy. It's always someone else's fault, not yours that you ate angry.

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Post ID: @2mnf+1tYVlKQo

@2xko-Nobody here hired on with hatred towards UP. We all had visions of a great career here leading to a good retirement, just like many others before us did. Does anyone remember when Vena first came around in 2019, he went around making cuts, including the raid at HQ in Omaha. That was the beginning of everything. Then when he retired, I personally believe that Fritz was somewhat trying to gradually build the company back to what it was before. But unfortunately, someone didn’t like that and they got rid of him, only to bring back Vena. Not long after Vena returned, a 2nd raid hit HQ along with other cuts as well. We went from a railroad that had 44,000 employees, now down to 36,000. We still needed those 8,000 employees. Maybe your manager is one of the few good ones that shield their employees from the bad things and that’s why you think we are “angry”. Again, we didn’t hire on angry, UP made us that way. We were here long before Vena, and I’m sure a lot more people would be happy to see him quit than if I quit.

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Post ID: @2ezs+1tYVlKQo

2uof+1tYVlKQo your hatred towards a company is extremely sad. Does UPRR have problems, yes. There isn't a company out there that doesn't have major problems. I've been furloughed as had my family, but I don't have grudge against the railroad. The railroad has been providing a great life for my family. In this industry, you have to accept challenges and change. There isn't a Class 1 that is growing there business. Yes PSR which is great on paper and actually worked at CNRR and ICRR. Most class 1 railroads care about profits. If you were smart and educated, which I can tell you aren't. The railroad industry has been going around in a circle since it was created. It's always been Profits, Pruductivity and Safety. The sooner people realize this the better off we will be. Sure we make head ways from time to time. You are nothing more than number to this company and if you're too incompetent to realize that, then you're not really bright. Part of the problem is No one wants to be involved thier Union. How did we come this far. The UNION. Everyone should be heavily involved with thier union, it's your voice.

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Post ID: @2xko+1tYVlKQo

@2rks and A.Polley. You two are the very reasons this company is what it is now. You have blinders on, so you see only what you want to see. Do you really think the few dozen people that post on here are the only that don't like this company? You should try asking the community members that the UP runs through about how they feel about the railroad. You could also ask for an opinion from the friends and family of the employees that lost their lives for this company. If you have access, then try to see if you can look up the old StraightUP articles. There was some good reading there. There wasn't a single comment on there that praised the company for what they're doing, and that was a few years ago. It was nice of one you to point out that you're a third generation railroader. Guess what? No one cares about that except you. The big boy was a nice idea at one time, but all it is right now is a distraction from the internal issues of the company. I was kind of amazed at the choice of words in the last sentence from @1tww which I'm sure is from the same person that posted under @2rks. " It shows what the railroad was and the shear size of what it use to be"! That sentence just proves how disconnected some people really are. You two are failing to see why the company is so bad. The UP ranked number 1 in derailments! How can anybody be proud of that? The UP executive team has to attend a government hearing in one month regarding carloadings shrinking, even though in previous hearings the executives told the government the UP was "well positioned for growth". There's many people that love working for the company. Those same people are also the ones that don't trust management. Imagine being let go after 28 years because one man that came out of retirement and implemented a plan that other class 1's are abandoning because of the destruction it's causing. You two bone heads need to wake up. You can kiss the company's a$$ all you want, but don't come to this site thinking you going to find support from anyone on here. I certainly won't give you any support after what the company did to me after 28 years! Next time think a little more before you post.

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Post ID: @2uof+1tYVlKQo

@2nle+1tYVlKQo I believe you are jealous of the fact that I love what I do.

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Post ID: @2rks+1tYVlKQo

I believe we have a hard core koolaid drinker here.

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Post ID: @2nle+1tYVlKQo

It never amazes me that we have such incompetent people on the railroad. I love working on the diesel engines. I have 20 years. My best advice is, if you don't like this company, do everyone a favor and quit. I'm a 3rd generation railroad employee. No matter where you work things will never be how you want it. Find enjoyment with life and if this job makes you that miserable leave. As far as the Big Boy is concerned. I think it's a great Public Relations exhibit. It shows what the railroad was and the shear size of what it use to be.

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Post ID: @1tww+1tYVlKQo

The Big Boy and Management are amazing and well worth every penny. It's the agreement employees that deserve a pay cut. Start saving your earnings now because you won't like your next contract.

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