If you are a hiring manager and you get two resumes with identical skills, would you hire a X-Intel employee or say X-AMD/Nvidia employee?
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As someone who has nothing to do with Intel but has interviewed dozens of engineers: there are no sweeping generalizations. You can have great people at a cr-ppy company and cr-ppy people at a great company. Believe it or not, Nvidia or Apple have their own share of arrogant pricks and lazy goldbrickers. But then most of the point of the interview process is to assess someone's personality and detect those traits.
The red flags would be: if you clearly have gone nowhere in your role but have stayed there for decades. If your technical experience is out of date. If you fixate on your contribution but neglect to mention the rest of the team. If you can't explain why you want to work at my company, but are obviously just desperate for any job. If you can't describe something you have accomplished in any level of technical detail. The normal interview red flags.
@1rpc How am I gaslighting?
I’m just giving my personal experience that colleagues on my teams that have left intel have had no issue getting work elsewhere in tech/with another fortune company. And I personally work with and know of ex intel at our suppliers and competition.
Stop being such a doomer. Unless you are in upper management/exec, you personally likely have nothing directly to do with intels recent downfall. If you’re a good engineer or business person, you’ll be ok. The market is tight right now, that’s the only issue. Nothing to do with being ex intel specifically.
Again, don’t let these clowns get you down. Your expertise and knowledge is desirable out in the market.
You and people like you are part of the problem. Keep gas lighting everyone. See how well that’s gone so far?
If you were running a real business, you would be extremely selective and people coming from paranoid work culture like Intel tend to introduce unnecessary competition and toxic behavior in teams where cooperation is the requirement.
I Love the “nobody hires ex intel” or “the smartest person at intel is d-mber than the d-mbest at AMD or NVDA”.
There are an unbelievable amount of ex intel employees at AMD, NVDA, ARM, Apple, our suppliers (AMAT, Tokyo Electron, LAM, etc). These companies often poach from intel. And if you want to leave tech and are in the business office side of things (accounting, finance, HR, marketing/sales, legal, etc.) tons of companies want ex intel. I’m on the business side and it’s been a steady stream of colleagues getting poached by/leaving to another tech company or Fortune 500.
Don’t let these clowns get in your head.
Why would NVIDIA or AMD hire us? So the same thing could happen to their programs? I swear some you guys are some of biggest d-mbasse. It’s no wonder why we are in such bad shape
That’s an impossible question. The smartest, brightest Intel employee will be d-mber than the d-mbest employee at NVDA or AMD.
All things being equal? Which one can I get the cheapest - put them into a bidding war.
It’s going to be a war zone with 15k of us all fighting over 5 job postings out there
If they pass the interview questions and have related experience, I would hire them. Apple, Nvidia, amd, lenovo hire from Intel all the time. I'm at Apple, my team is 85% former Intel
I would hire the employee with the best attitude. I would look at how well each candidate is likely to fit in with the team. Both Intel and AMD are credible companies as far as the employee credentials are concerned. Selection process is rigorous in both companies. So both employees have already proven themselves by working at these companies. I would never judge a candidate based on how much the leadership at his/her former company has f*cked up. That would be unfair.
@uia+1tW4o67L, you are spot on. I lost my Intel job 2015 and I am just beginning to make what I was making in 2015. So, it be many years before recovery for those impacted. I sold many things including my brand spanking new car to stay afloat. So much hardship ahead. Need to buckle up as it will be a bumpy ride, but it will make all of us stronger. Hang in there guys.
Eventually the party was going to end. Many people do minimal work at Intel. Most competitors are way more lean in functions such as supply chain, legal, finance and HR.
All those grade 9s with over 200k total comp per year will definitely be looking at severe pay cuts at other companies.
Especially in Oregon. Many will have to move to find anything even close.
Look around. Look at you peers here. They are mostly entitled arrogant pricks who think they are gods gift to world. But publicly we have failed spectacularly. So imagine what others see when you combine those two things together. Answer is a big polite professional no thank you.
Skills would not be identical.
The Intel skillset would be full of inefficient “BKM”s. The Intel employee would need to learn how to be more efficient / productive.
Don't you have job interviews that evaluate the actual qualities of the candidate in your local corporate hellhole?