Did they honor your given notice or terminate early?
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@3alt+1tLVMGUn No one here is trying to guilt anyone by being honest and saying it’s reasonable to consider that you may burn bridges with individual humans who could help you someday if you act like an a-s on the way out. No one is saying don’t look after yourself. Just don’t burn bridges with colleagues unnecessarily bc you don’t think it will ever matter. If you get a better job and have to take it with no notice- so be it. But if notice is an option that doesn’t put another job at risk- it’s a respectful thing to do for your team and builds good will for future support. Man y’all think the boogeyman is everywhere. Literally just saying try to head out with some respect for your team IF that’s doable and you can take care of your own immediate needs at the same time. No need to risk future opportunities bc you simply feel like sticking into to 2u. I could care less if you stick it to 2u. Just consider long term roi for yourself if it also means unnecessarily sticking it to your team.
@2fnj+1tLVMGUn as someone who has been through several rounds of job searching at various levels of career, i know this rationale is often used by managers to avoid having to tackle issues around retention and keeping workers motivated. in lieu things like raises, bonuses and skill development, management falls back on guilt (“think about the mission!” “oh what will the students do!” “your coworkers will be left hanging!”)
none of this is true. individuals can and should act in their self interest. no one will die and most coworkers won’t think about you again, positively or negatively. we’ve all got our own sh-t.
take it to heart or don’t - shared as a heads up.
@1umd+1tLVMGUn of course they are subjective. As are all opinions and judgments. Just know that everyone is not like you and you may need help from someone someday who thought you unnecessarily burned bridges. It’s just reality. Of course you don’t have to care - but it could come back in a to bite you - something only those who’ve been through a few rounds of job searching at various levels of career would know. Take it to heart or don’t - shared as a heads up.
If they didn’t offer you a raise, they didn’t fight tooth and nail.
They fought tooth and nail to try to get me to stay longer than my two weeks notice.
your judgements here are highly subjective. i’d never judge someone for leaving a bankrupt company on their own terms. this is the “when they go low, we go high” of the business world.
Connections matter. People you know at 2u might be in a position to hire you at or recommend you to another company someday (ed tech is a small world). It may not matter if you burn bridges with 2u as a company- but people remember if someone leaves them hanging. If you find something else and have choice but to start right away- that’s a more understandable story in this situation - but don’t think for a second it doesn’t matter at all how you behave on your way out - especially to teammates who may be able to help with figure job searches if they see you as a trusted former colleague vs a flake.
leaving without notice is not sc--wing your team. they will get paid the same amount whether you’re employed at 2U or not. if work doesn’t get delivered because your team is understaffed, that’s 2U’s fault, not yours, and a mature coworker wouldn’t hold that against you.
your only duty is to yourself and your loved ones. ignore the propaganda and follow the example set by leadership by maximizing your personal gains.
The point is some of us want to be “better” than the way 2u operates. I would not be comfortable just sc--wing over my team even if 2u is fine with sc--wing me over.
Does 2U provide you courtesy when they layoff teammates and leave you with their work on top of your own?
I have a hard time believing anyone who's been here for a while is comfortable just leaving without any notice. It is a courtesy to your team, if you have one. Do you have to give 2 weeks? No. But acting like leaving with no notice has no consequences because the company may not survive is just d-mb.
Do not give notice. Also, 2U outsources references to a third party. They do not tell future employers anything about you whatsoever except your start and end dates. You will not be given a positive reference. You will not be given a negative reference.
Milk as much PTO as possible and quit when it is convenient for you. I recommend quitting on the first day of a new month so you retain insurance from 2U for the remainder of the month.
Why would you give notice? Use as much UPTO as possible and then stop showing up.
Everyone I know who resigned in my department served out their full notice.
Why even give notice? Not like you are burning a bridge you might someday come back to. Take UPTO, then quit!