Thread regarding Phillips 66 layoffs

Thoughts on Outsourcing Phillips 66 Jobs

The new practice of outsourcing our jobs from the United States to India is a result of our current leadership team looking to reduce labor costs. While our CEO and CIO say that this will help boost shareholder value, the negative consequences of outsourcing outweigh any potential benefits. Shipping our jobs overseas depletes our American workforce, and exploits foreign workers, and ultimately helps undermine the long-term economic interests of the United States.

One of the primary arguments made in favor of outsourcing is that it allows us to cut costs by tapping into India's vast pool of inexpensive labor. Wages for skilled technology workers and back-office personnel are a fraction of what they are in the U.S. However, every job that gets outsourced is a job lost for a Phillips 66 worker. As more and more positions are eliminated domestically, it erodes the American middle class and exacerbates income inequality. The communities we operate in will suffer as laid-off workers have less money to spend, hurting businesses and reducing tax revenues.

Moreover, the jobs being outsourced to India often exploit the local workforce through low wages and poor working conditions that would be unacceptable or even illegal in the United States. From an ethical standpoint, this race to the bottom undermines fundamental values of human rights and dignity that Phillips 66 should be upholding rather than circumventing for short-term financial gain.

In the long run, outsourcing skilled jobs could end up backfiring. As more technical and white-collar roles shift to India, it allows that nation to rapidly develop its own human capital and innovative capabilities. We are effectively contributing to our nation’s economic decline by transferring knowledge and skills.

While globalization and international trade have benefited the world in many ways, the outsourcing of Phillips 66 jobs is a short-sighted strategy that compromises the fundamental values of the company. It hollows out our domestic workforce, and enables unethical labor practices. Rather than chasing lower wages abroad, Phillips 66 should be investing in their workforce at home to foster innovation and increase productivity through a highly skilled labor force. Protecting American jobs from excessive outsourcing is crucial for economic prosperity and upholding values of fairness and human rights.

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They should outsource during TA's so we don't have to donate our time.

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Post ID: @eidl+1sS57QVA

They should outsource the ELT and L & D

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Post ID: @dkja+1sS57QVA

They should outsource Stoney island.

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Post ID: @dilt+1sS57QVA

Apparently outsourcing pipelines too

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Post ID: @cztl+1sS57QVA

I was sleeping in my dumpster working the turnaround on nights. The dumpster U1 form states it was fabricated in India.
Go figure

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Post ID: @bnrk+1sS57QVA

AI is taking our jobs sooner or later.

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Post ID: @aial+1sS57QVA

Personally, I don’t think they understand the potential ramifications of the roles they’ve outsourced. They think any mirror-fogger can do these jobs and that may be true to an extent, if you want things done poorly. However, if you want things done well (even the entry level jobs) an understanding of O&G, our systems, how transactions process, etc. is kind of important. I’m just sitting here with my popcorn waiting for this sh*t to blow up in their face.

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Post ID: @adzm+1sS57QVA

Which would be 80% of the company because of morale. Genius - are you gogoboy’s saucy toy or something?

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Post ID: @6chx+1sS57QVA

They need to do forced rankings and cull the bottom. It would be best for morale to get rid of the people with low/no productivity

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Post ID: @6ynb+1sS57QVA

They control the posts just like p66 controls the narrative inside the razor wire fence line.

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Post ID: @4toe+1sS57QVA

If your post is deleted, look on the bright side of things. You know you’ve struck a nerve with someone.

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Post ID: @4lki+1sS57QVA

Face it, getting laid off from p666 isn’t the worst thing that could happen. Only way is up from there.

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Post ID: @4szb+1sS57QVA

Why not work for the competition? The ship is sinking and Captain GOGO is playing the last tune.

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Post ID: @3teg+1sS57QVA

In the 80s, there was a push to get engineering work done by the EPC firms and the companies went through major restructuring and loss of engineering jobs. Prior to this, all the engineering work used to be done in house. In the 90s, there was evaluation of value added and each individual employee was assessed on the value added and if there wasn’t any value, the job was eliminated. In the 2000s and beyond, there were mergers and splits. Even the pension plan was changed because of the reality that people no longer wished to stay in one company their entire career.

This has been going on for ever. That is what makes the country the greatest in the world because of the constant churning and the search for efficiency and innovation.

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Post ID: @2pcc+1sS57QVA

Been with company 30 years, for the most part loved the work and coworkers. Lately I lost all my pride and hate the way they are treating us. Now we have to justify our SGL grade and GO GO just to meet’s expectations. Moral and safety at an all time low.
Now we are overpaid and want to save a few bucks and outsource.
If I hear Transformation, Work elimination, outsourcing just get it over with we look like buffoons.
My advice to you youngster's do as little as possible, because when you get older they will treat you like garbage.

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Post ID: @2kto+1sS57QVA

What makes the mainstream retailers not have made in USA goods is what is making jobs be shipped to low cost locations as well. Just as you don’t have a choice of buying US made goods, you don’t have a choice about your job getting shipped abroad either. Prepare for the eventuality so that you can land fhe next gig.

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Post ID: @1kpo+1sS57QVA

Save the hot air. You are warming our planet and threatening the sea level rise in India. Then I’ll never get my IT ticket closed out.
Go with the flow
Just wait until AI does your job. It’ll run the refineries better than the GoGo team.

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Post ID: @1yww+1sS57QVA

What mainstream retailers have made in USA goods? I’d say very few of them, so choice is primarily an illusion. Can I choose gasoline from a major refiner who hasn’t outsourced their staff? Again, just as d-mb of a proposition.

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Post ID: @1rqt+1sS57QVA

First, stop shopping for cheap goods at stores manufactured at low cost locations before whining about shipping of jobs to low cost locations. Your greed for cheap goods has taken away the high paying manufacturing jobs.

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Post ID: @1ize+1sS57QVA

Our outsourcing strategy is the following: Do less with less. Cut as many american jobs as we can until our quality drop results in a catastrophic failure of something. And then at that point, blame the employees, replace the management, and then continue the outsourcing until you have a half of Phillips 66 corporate in the India office.

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Post ID: @1mxg+1sS57QVA

What makes you think we haven't? I don't know what it's like at the other refineries, but we get "yeah, I don't agree with a lot of the decisions made by corporate either, next question?" at our town halls...

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Post ID: @1qyd+1sS57QVA

If you have the guts, raise the issue in a town hall meeting and challenge the decision made by your leaders. Crying here will change nothing.

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Post ID: @1mdw+1sS57QVA

Forget all the other stuff, I have to work with L&T on a near daily basis. Are they cheaper than American workers? Undoubtedly.

Does that savings pay for an engineer making upwards of 200k a year to not be able to progress whatever they're working on because some clueless L&T representative takes three weeks to do what our old IT got done in 30 minutes? Doubtful...

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Post ID: @1bmh+1sS57QVA

When someone comes to the US as a tourist, it’s appalling to find how much of the manufacturing is “gone” to low cost countries but local people have no issues with it. Many stores have extremely high percentage of things made at low cost locations and the patriotic people happily buy them. It never bothered their conscience that the high paying manufacturing jobs were taken away and were replaced by the ones that made them flipping burgers at fast food restaurants. 70% of the GDP is “consumer spending”, aka buying cheap goods manufactured at low cost locations. A lot of employment is hourly wages at business houses. When none of this affects your conscience, why should shipping of tech jobs to India affect you? Because now your own job is in peril? In the IT sector, this has been going on for a long time. Please wake up and smell the coffee. You can’t have the hegemony of a fiat currency and not suffer the consequences of it.

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Post ID: @1skw+1sS57QVA

you should run for a political office

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