Thread regarding SAP layoffs

What does everyone think about the new merger with Amex? It seems like more layoffs are happening already. Rumblings are that the entire travel side will be cut and Amex employees will take over by the end of the first quarter 2026. True?

Saddened but not surprised. The writing was on the wall. The brain trust and talent pool started leaving en masse in 2021/22 and the leadership replacements (the so-called VP/CTO from Microsoft in particular) has been a wreck. So much potential lost. SAP never allowed any additional investment to keep up with better UX and innovation of competitors and they hired genuflecting yes people to keep the lights on.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/sap-san-francisco-soma-office-17918126.php

Is our new showpiece really closing?

How about the rest 25% when would they know ?

@1gkq+1s5vXrJ8 we had our own culture that SAP ki-led with bureaucracy. Integration with SAP is SAP job, specifically PE team - it's their problem that they are slow and that SAP systems are so old that the integration is complicated.

@for+1s5vXrJ8 Wtf San Francisco office opened last year. No way they are closing it

Concur was losing money when SAP bought Concur. Concur founders and execs were incredibly happy to have been purchased by SAP because they needed SAP cash infusion to be able to achieve profitability. If SAP had not bought Concur, Concur would have likely fired a lot of employees during COVID years, when businesses did not really need Travel & Expense software and revenue declined drastically.

A lot of Concur brain trust left by 2022, because they saw the writing on the wall that the software has plateaued (not much innovation you can do with Travel & Expense software) and that revenue growth would decline. It has been almost 10 years since the acquisition. SAP will continue to lay off employees in the Concur BU because of cost, value, and lack of integration with SAP products and culture.

I also heard it was based on (expensive?) locations. We were told the SAP San Francisco office is closing.

Concur CSP APAC has been affected.

@vxx+1s5vXrJ8 it is probably the 25% that will be laid off in Q1 2025. Customer Success is going to be impacted by the new board area CS&D. They won't know who to purge until after the new board area has been formed.

Has Concur Client Success been impacted by the layoffs at all?

@fqt+1s5vXrJ8 - They say they are firing expensive locations (locations where people make more money). Example - UK (almost 80% is being eliminated) & Reston, VA

they said they are firing based on location, is that true from known cases?

The problem was concur never toed the company line, so even though concur was until recently almost all the actual productive AI use cases, all built by the teams who have been taken and put up against the wall, we where not protected, especially as were still technically a separate legal entity. We had a good few years without too much negative interference by sap but now their doing to us what they did to every other acquisition, fu--ing it up and ruining everything that worked.

CallidusCloud was by far the worst acquisition by SAP

Expense management would always be heavily affected by AI, not only are people traveling less, but nearly all receipts are digital and expense management can be nearly automated.

I am just waiting for the new billion dollar business run by 5 people...

Acquisition by SAP was the worst thing that could happen to Concur. It ki-led our spirit, our culture. I still hope that they will have to get rid of Concur and sell us to some better company.