Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

Yeah, these old airplane designs are a nightmare to properly maintain airworthiness...especially given with how inexperienced the people who now maintain them are with these old systems. This will become increasingly more problematic. And the 737 is by far the worst in this regard. But even the 787 is allegedly headed to disaster according to the engineers who designed it and had to do so with their hands tied behind their backs and their mouths covered with tape until they eventually escaped Boeing.

Might want to inspect the shear bolts that were originally designed to shear off to ensure that the cable/quadrant rudder control system can NOT jam are still the proper spec parts and have not been replaced with some cheap bolts. And while at it, might want to review what Boeing did to spoiler control system when they created the Max...cause might have another MCAS hiding there too. Just say'in...

Thanks for that answer. You just told us the clowns and monkeys removed redundant safety equipment. Well now we don't put enough on or properly working ones. Make logical sense.

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No, it wasn't clowns and monkeys that designed this old system. It was a great design for the time.

However, one well known problem is that Boeing removed some the redundant safety devices that prevented a jam from the original design...to save cost. This was pointed out in detail to FAA via the public comment process for the AD that grounded the Max for 2 years by the Bob Bogash team...but the FAA didn't do anything about it.

Another problem is that it something between an art and a science to properly rig and maintain this old system design. I would be very surprised if there are still people around with the knowledge, experience and passion to do this.

This is what happens when you have clowns and monkeys designing and building aircraft

Boeing is now party to a new federal investigation involving a 737 Max after
United Airlines pilots reported that part of the flight controls became jammed
as they landed in Newark last month.

In a newly-released preliminary report of the February 6 incident,
the National Transportation Safety board says the pilots of the Boeing 737 Max 8
dҽathtrap “experienced ‘stuck’ rudder pedals during the landing rollout.”
The rudder controls an airplane’s yaw, or the left and right swinging of the nose.

The NTSB says none of the 161 people on United flight 1539 were injured and the
plane returned to the gate, though United maintenance crews were able to
“duplicate the reported rudder system malfunction”
during a test flight three days later.

The investigation is the latest to involve a nearly-new Boeing 737 Max dҽathtrap
following the door plug blowout on an Alaska Airlines 737 Max 9 on January 5.
The NTSB says in this latest incident, the 737 Max 8 was delivered from Boeing
to United Airlines in February 2023.

The NTSB says the servo in question was disabled by United Airlines,
but cold temperature tests by the company that makes an autopilot servo that
is connected to the 737 Max 8 rudder controls, Collins Aerospace, as part of the investigation revealed the servo’s “output crank arm would prevent the rudder
pedals from moving.”
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It’s Old, real old and such mechanism’s have worked for more than 50 years.
Until now. Back then professionals built all the components and they were
vertically integrated in the production.
They were not built by monkeys with outsourced components.

Boeing Drawing of the Tab Control mechanism (as an example) Dated 1963

https://i.stack.imgur.com/sXjaf.png