Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Good advice on job, not career in Ford

When you finally realize you have a job and not a career you have three options.

  • Find a new job (only way to get promoted) that respects your ability.
  • Except you only have a job and will be a worker making other look good and get promoted.
  • Treat Ford like a cash cow, stop trying to get promoted, do only what is needed to not get terminated. Find a low stress hard to outsource job. Find a side hustle and make money. Lean to invest your money to grow it faster. Enjoy not working overtime or weekends and spending quality time with family and friends. Take all your vacation, personal days, etc.

FYI, If you are not an LL5 by 35 you do not have a career or future at Ford.

Frankly, most of us want jobs and life, not careers. Who came up with the idea that we all have to be super-ambitious, and the only expression of ambition is to boss someone around? Good post, @1vwd+1rhttZiv.

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Post ID: @OP+1rj8G4O1

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@rjf+1rj8G4O1: My perspective is very similar to yours. One advantage of being management is that you have a lower risk of getting cut. Ford does not respect technical talent. For example, I was the only one on my team that didn't have direct reports, so I was viewed as the one with the lowest workload because I didn't manage people. So you are at a higher risk for layoff. I was able to avoid it for many years but it finally got me in the end. Fortunately, I was there long enough to leave with a good pension.

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Post ID: @3auj+1rj8G4O1

''It's a business relationship, nothing more or nothing less. Get your paycheck''

Very true and it's unfortunate because there was a time when I felt different. The last 2 round of cuts destroyed any pride I had left in this place.

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Post ID: @2sot+1rj8G4O1

As someone who was SIRPe'd, and now thriving in another job in a totally different industry, my advice is to look out for your own best interest. There is no "loyalty" within any company, they keep you as long as they see fit. Do your job well but always look to see if the situation is to your and your family's benefit. Use Ford/any company, like they use you. It's a business relationship, nothing more or nothing less. Get your paycheck.

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Post ID: @1owl+1rj8G4O1

I was a LL6/LL5 for 20 years. When Ford got rid of me under “SMART Redesign” I was too young to retire but it was an unforeseen blessing. The best part of my career was being a GSR8. Good pay, got paid for every hour of overtime I put in, great teammates, more horizontal developmental move opportunities, the people above me had the real responsibility for the entire department running on multiple shifts, didn’t have to deal with the politics, budget cuts, headcount reductions, others performance reviews, and I had a lot better work life balance. I loved my teammates as a manager but I sacrificed a lot by having to put Ford priorities over my family priorities (holidays, weekends, etc.) in order to keep operations running. Also don’t judge your satisfaction on how high you go within the company. There are leaders at each level and there is more to life. It took me 30 years to realize that and the SMART redesign allowed me to get my life back with a better company, better working conditions, better morale, and with good pay. Learn from me. :0)

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Post ID: @1ipx+1rj8G4O1

Ford pensions & retiree insurance back in the conversation and on the negotiating table in 2028.

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Post ID: @1qex+1rj8G4O1

Just get you paychecks and enjoy
You dont have to care for a company that doesnt care for employees

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Post ID: @1jfm+1rj8G4O1

The statement about being LL5 by 35 is silly. SG7 is actually a career level position with enough range of challenge and pay scale. There is more to life than titles and money. Take a breath and spend time with your kids. You’ll be happier and probably live longer.

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Post ID: @1qbi+1rj8G4O1

I have been working from home since 2010. No one really cares what you do at Ford. My boss have no idea if I am there or not. It's just a job and it pays the bills. I have my side jobs too. Now I am ready to retire from this place. 25 years is enough. Goodbye my friend.

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Post ID: @1gts+1rj8G4O1

I don't want to be a manager, since I am not good with office politics or people. I am too honest and straighforward to hold any manager position. I do love technical challenges, and I am good at troubleshooting. Why would I want to change that for dealing with people, particularly at Ford, where there are many clueless FnF employees that I won't be able to rid of them? There is nothing wrong with not being a manager, and at least I know and acknowledge my "weaknesses" and stay true to my preferences.

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