Thread regarding Optum layoffs

SD has a directive that half of staff must be offshore. And so there's kind of a benefit to having people who cannot actually do the work in play. It improves your own team's job security.

When you are told to train anyone especially an Indian company start looking for a job. Wipro means massive offshoring.

Before I left Optum last year, I remember I was on a call with a PM director asking what the deal was with losing some great contractors and got told that two companies were going to do be providing any contractors we got, Accenture and WiPro.

I laughed so hard when I heard WiPro was his choice because I remember early in my IT career about 16 years ago taking tech support calls from some WiPro folks and the batch they had back then were just as incompetent in 2008 as they are now in 2023/2024. Amazing how some things never change. I remember telling my staff about this before I left and told them to brace themselves for the sheer idiocy incoming. Funny enough, I still get texts from time to time from them about the idiocy that has prevailed.

All in the name of profit, outsourcing to incompetent mo--ns. Glad I left a year ago.

It took 2 weeks to clone a single repo with help. They constantly ran into problems but I think there biggest problem was simply not working at all during their scheduled shift.

I had to teach a Wipro contractor (Engineer) on how to open and launch Notepad++.

The Candy Man is the one raking in the profits. Shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone when he took over. Get out whilst you still can.

You are correct, they are very inexperienced, they circumvent the rules, etc. In the group I led, they had a 48% annual attrition rate.

You guys are aware that UHG has a controlling stake in WiPro? Conflict of interest if you ask me.

American data should not be handled by third world countries.

Wipro wouldn't be so insufferable if they ever admitted they don't know something or when they sc--wed something up. But no, it's quite the opposite. I've never seen a group to be so arrogant yet so ignorant.

Persistent replace wipro, 6 months
Doing needful cheaper

@kco+1rR69yBP, I would have to say you nailed it. I have been working with India imported contractors since the beginning of the century and I will attest they all start out vocationally trained, okay not all but 90%. The OP mentioned some of the shortcomings the gaps in knowledge that these contractors bring. But some of the shortcomings are inculcated culture, they must have been rewarded for completion? Sounds strange to say but I cannot remember working with one Indian contractor who was sincerely interested in developing a test plan. I do remember many mistakes being made by push to completion and inexperience. Sadly this is what the lame lazy MN executives have chosen as their solution, the tens of billions invested in India infrastructure and still they need consultants, HQ cronyism has no accountability!

Wipro is like any public company, they want to make as much profit as possible. They get paid a set amount to handle to provide services and it is a lot cheaper to pay workers in India rather than the US. Which means more profit for Wipro. I was one of many that had their job transferred from CHG to Wipro and eventually all of the jobs ended up in India.

Wipro's talent pool ebbs and flows with the demand in India. When it's low, Wipro can hold some talent, but when demand is high Wipro fills its ranks with anybody they can get through a coding training class.

Nothing worse than seeing parallel processing in C++ written by native Javascript coders a la Wipro.

Lower cost labour= higher bonuses/stock options for happy execs
Trade one low cost labour with another = no accountability required from the execs
This is how this Corp boost the artificial so called “growth”

Very accurate. on spot. Wipro is "all Sales & Marketing to get contracts with Big companies but no service to clients (Below Average contractors)".

We're all in the same boat without the power to change things. Feedback goes to deaf ears because middle management and senior management don't have long term objectives or face consequences.

Heres the deal with wipro and other contracting companies.. They match the people they put forth based on the contract rates and UHG is paying some of the lowest rates in the industry.

The good wipro candidates get sent to clients that pay more, like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Citadel
The middle of the pack get sent to Bank of America, Chase, etc
The left overs come to us.

Keep in mind that the software industry in india is very competitive with a constant need for talent. Extremely talented individuals rarely ever work for a company like wipro.
Most folks who join these WITCH companies leave after 2 years.

So there you have it. Candyman is a mo--n from one of these WITCH companies and he played the short tern game of singing an enteprise wide outsourcing contract at rock bottom prices. Immediate returns on bottom line.

It seems a bit surreal - all we can do is hope to be entertained by it (and possibly seek therapy). What a sh!t show!!! And what a profound waste!!!