Thread regarding SAS Institute layoffs

Alice in Wonderland

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“They triangulate, steal ideas, behave in an unprofessional manner and make odd, irrational decisions. They draw folks into their chaotic, topsy-turvy, Alice in Wonderland worlds to support them in their bizarre logic and decisions, sans rationale. And after you've worked with them in their twisted reality, you no longer know which way is up, or how to discern right from wrong. You question your own sanity -- Then they get promoted; a reward for "a job well done" and all. It's a mind f-ck when you think back on their bizarre, chaotic behavior.

After you leave that environment, let your head clear, and regain your grip on sanity, you realize that you weren't crazy after all. It's that environment, and what that environment values.”

Thank you! Posts like this are healing for me. They let me know that I’m not the only one who had this experience.

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There's no point in identifying them. They are a protected species.

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Post ID: @1ywi+1rNB3mG3

"It is one of the Photographer's people. Crazier than a sh!thouse rat."

Initials or other hints?

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Post ID: @1rwn+1rNB3mG3

It is one of the Photographer's people. Crazier than a sh!thouse rat.

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Post ID: @zet+1rNB3mG3

Is this another flashback to the photographer?

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[OP] I worked under four of these managers in SAS R&D. In all four cases, I got blamed for problems I did not cause. I wondered, am I somehow bringing this on myself? It definitely messes with your mind.

By the time of my fourth toxic manager, I had saved enough money to quit. I left without a package, and without a job; I had to get out of there. Because of my age, it took months, but I found a better job, under a better manager, with better money.

@OP+1rLZRVtS suggests hiring back the retired engineers. But we weren’t the problem, and hiring us back isn’t the solution. There are plenty of good engineers remaining at SAS — but good engineers need good managers.

SAS tolerates a mix of these toxic managers, along with the good ones, and the nice but untalented sycophants. This combination prevents the good managers from leading, because they must compromise with the toxics and the sycophants.

These political compromises can only produce mediocre products. As long as this management mix continues, SAS will continue to decline.

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