Thread regarding Optum layoffs

PIP - performance improvement plan

Anyone heard of this?

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Also used prior to layoff to put you on blacklist for rehire.

Bottom line...better companies to work for. It only su-ks if you are working for a great company.

Just the hassle of looking for a new company. But overall, it is a relief to leave toxic bosses.

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Post ID: @6fzd+1qURU9rO

oldest trick in the book. stack rate the people set them up for a fall put them on PIP or CAP which is equivalent to death row. Very rare that anyone recovers from a PIP and if by chance you do you got the black mark so never be promoted. See if you can get a PIL performace oin lieu get a check and move outside the company you are done

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Post ID: @2mac+1qURU9rO

why would you be a VP assistants manager? make up another fake story

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Post ID: @1trg+1qURU9rO

Only time I was asked to put someone on a PIP was because our VP needed her assistant to get a 1 on her performance review, which meant they needed to find a 4 or 5 to rate. He was on my team. Along with the 4 rating, it was policy to put them on a PIP. I stepped down from that 'leadership' position soon after, I told them I live and work with more integrity than that. I don't believe being on a PIP/CAP is halfway out the door. It does mean you will be micro managed and the added stress is difficult. Dept of LABOR frown upon companies that terminate folks for performance when layoffs are in queue.

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Post ID: @1olp+1qURU9rO

Manager here, I have only resorted to putting someone on a PIP after verbal coaching and there was no improvement. Comp planning already closed so your manager would have rated you and their manager would have decided what merit of RRP to award. You probably rated low and they had to start a PIP to cover their a-s when it comes time to do your review. They will say you are below expectations and that will justify no award. Pretty much when a PIP is started, it’s a way of “coaching you out”. Most employees will leave after that. Having a PIP on your personnel file may not look attractive to internal managers so most employees leave the company. It’s easier than firing you. But this company will find a way around it. I’ve seen folks on protected FMLA he laid off with the excuse of eliminating a position but a few months later hire someone.

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Post ID: @xwc+1qURU9rO

HR su-ks! Few get away from CAP and still working because of favoritism.

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Post ID: @hzd+1qURU9rO

Will they tell you your a 2 and then lay you off???? Or will they just lay you off before the rating hits

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Post ID: @ule+1qURU9rO

If you get out on a PIP/CAP notice. You need start looking now for a new job. IF you happen to meet criteria to have the PIP/CAP removed, you will now have a target on your back if you stay here. Also if you are out on a PIP/CAP they could be lightly selecting you for the next layoff/severance/business cost event thingy whatever they call it.

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Post ID: @tdl+1qURU9rO

Yes, or CAP = corrective action plan.

Might as well start looking outside the company.

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