Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

This is all about culture

Aviation consultant Neil Hansford agrees with the general assessment from aviation experts worldwide that the problems with Boeing began two decades ago when it merged with rival company McDonnell Douglas.

The takeover slowly eroded the culture of the more than 100-year-old company, Mr Hansford told the ABC.

"This is all about culture," he explained.

"Boeing was run by engineers. And everything was motivated by engineers. And part of that was excellence, and safety and security.

"Then in came McDonnell Douglas … Engineers have been driven down the hill and replaced by accountants, and the management style just hasn't worked."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-30/boeing-737-max-production-defects-ignored-aviation-regulator/103400468

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Boeing doesn’t really have a culture anymore.

Boeing wants to hire new employees at the bottom of the pale. Keep them for about 10 years until they max out their pay and then lay them off either through Covid or recession or some other excuse.

I don’t think Boeing laid off anyone at the Moscow design center for Covid.

And then they just rinse and repeat. A bunch more new employees with no experience to replace your tenure veterans that you laid off during the recession, Covid, etc.

This isnt lost on the employees. Employees are not recommending Boeing as a place to work for the relatives or friends. Those who are close enough are just trying to hang onto Retirement. The rest are training for different careers then aviation.

People used to be proud to work at Boeing and proud of the products they produced not anymore.

When Jim McNarney decided to spend the majority of the profits during his time, as CEO on stock buybacks, instead of a development program to replace the 737, that was the end of Boeing that.

You have an entire product line missing. No one is picking the 737 over the A320.

The obvious problem is having the CEOs bonus tied to the price of the stock. Because they would do anything to increase the stock price. I do not understand how I honest and legitimate. Board of Directors would continue to do that.

Boeing has not made a profit since the first max crash except for one quarter yet they paid their Ceo millions of dollars because of the inflated stock price. The CEO bonus pay should be tied to the profits of the company at the end of the year and not to the price of the stock because the price of the stock can be manipulated.

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Post ID: @6ifn+1qPWrjhk

When we rush projects at our own homes we create our own share of safety and quality concerns. These rich CEOs never do projects at home so they really don't understand a small scope let alone large scope of company projects. How can you lead people when all you do is verbalize. Educations in basket weaving in colleges don't do any good for anyone.

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Post ID: @3lzi+1qPWrjhk

@2pll+1qPWrjhk

Nope, I am just one who has his eyes open and can see how schedule is king. When you are pushed by management like you, mistakes will happen. As the post says, it's a culture. I for one am glad I left.

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Post ID: @2cyj+1qPWrjhk

I did work there for 15 years and yes and no I was a line mechanic. And yes management is the poorest I have ever seen. But they do not call it the Lazy B because everything is great. You must be one of the people who sell time for money with no work involved. Have a nice day

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Post ID: @2pll+1qPWrjhk

Boeing hasn’t had a successful program since the first 777, wayyyy back in the early 1990’s.

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Post ID: @2iea+1qPWrjhk

@1mwk+1qPWrjhk

You are either management or you have never worked at Boeing

Did a couple people sc--w up, yes, but if you worked there, you would know why.

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Post ID: @2nsf+1qPWrjhk

Does Boeing have any projects that aren't bleeding lots of money? Don't think so. Fortunately, we don't need Boeing anymore.

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Post ID: @2vtk+1qPWrjhk

All this news reporting and experts telling us what they believe which most of the time is
BS. The true is one line worker and one Quality assurance person did not do their jobs on this aircraft. For all the other loose bolt or missing bolts shop personal and quality assurance in the factory have a large problem. Yes it’s starts at the top ,but workers have to take responsibility for their work . All Boeing has a problem with that.

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Post ID: @1mwk+1qPWrjhk

No, Boeing had inbred and incompetent nepo leadership BEFORE the MD merger. Only incompetent leadership would advocate merging the best aerospace company in the world with the worst aerospace company in the world and expect a good outcome.

But Yeah, things then got even worse after the MD merger which created the current situation where Boeing no longer has sufficient competence in any area to successfully perform aerospace engineering or manufacturing. Boeing is now just an inexperienced shell company trying to sell itself as still being a viable aerospace player based on its previous successful history. Unfortunately, the people and processes that made that history no longer exist at Boeing.

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Post ID: @1mfl+1qPWrjhk

Boeing is so bad that the even their whistleblowers have no conscience. She/they apparently saw loose bolts and just wrote up a report instead of tightening it her/themself. Imagine seeing a loose bolt on a plane door and then just going home, having steak, sleep with your "partner," and then dream about being on The View to talk about being a whistleblower.

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Post ID: @1ljm+1qPWrjhk

It's been over 25 years since McDonnell Douglass and Boeing "merged". I dis-agree that it "still a cultural issue". The issue is very simple. They don't have the right leadership and management to succeed. In fact, they don't have a "lot" of the right people as well. Perfect example" Look at the BOD........Weak.

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Boeing Facing severe criticism over its clownish Takt time
focused manufacturing practices after a door plug blew out
on a 737 Max over Oregon this month.
Boeing said Monday it is withdrawing a request for a
safety exemption needed to certify a new model deatҺtrap.

The company asked federal regulators late last year to allow
it to begin delivering its 737 Max 7 airliner to customers even
though it does not meet a safety standard designed to prevent
part of the engine housing from overheating and breaking off
during flight. (Criminally Insane_?)

However, after a door panel blew out on a different version of
the plane - a Max 9 - leaving a gaping hole in the fuselage of
an Alaska Airlines flight out of Portland, Oregon, on Jan. 5,
the company's quality control and commitment to safety
have been questioned once again.

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