Has anyone, who no longer works for Dell, left by voluntary wfr? Will Dell offer/consider if you volunteer?
I am keen to throw the towel in but if I can do it via WFR then so much the better.
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OP here. I see that yes, in EMEA there is a link on the HR website where you can "Volunteer" to leave. On the same webpage where you can resign. Now from a Dell perspective, what's the difference. I mean I could volunteer and then get fired?!
To truly fast track it, go to your work email and email these key words to yourself: 'Union', and 'NLRB' and 'Workers Rights'. Also, include these very same words in the search engine you use on your work laptop. This should expedite the process for your release.
@2oeg+1phZ9JMM voluntary will also be available in France and a couple of other EMEA countries.
@2ypy+1phZ9JMM, untrue, at least in EMEA.
@2oeg+1phZ9JMM, well, in Germany you can refuse a WFR and stay employed.
There is currently an ongoing voluntary separation program going on in Germany within Dell.
Yes. The advice here is for people still in a career.
Not for those in their twilight years
I don’t need to look for a job, Dell is my last job. I don’t need to talk to anyone, I already did. I am just waiting for that glorious day when I get laid off.
This talk about who picks the candidate it useless.
I am sure it's a combo of things and your manager has a say. Not sure how much but he/she definitely can weigh in on WHO.
But that is not the important thing. UNLESS you are kin to your manager, DO NOT share your feelings. Golden rule is never show your cards unless you have to. NEVER.
Quiet quit until you find another job.
Wfr list has a name that was chosen by your boss.
Dont be under any misconception.
Your boss used evidence to support why you should be wfr compared to others in his team.
It is not a one time conversation. His data, evidence is discussed multiple times. Each time he confirms that out of all his team he chose your name with evidence to support that matches HR policies for wfr.
This is the truth.
Dell technically does not ask for "Volunteers" (to do so would result in most of the best employees asking to leave). But there are ways that you can phrase a request.
- You need to be prepared to leave if you are not granted.
Here is how I phrased it in July.
In early July after hearing that there would be layoffs in August I approached my manager that that I was planning on leaving Dell and wanted to pursue an exit strategy that would allow me to transition my job to someone else in a graceful manner (You need to make it sound like you are doing them a favor).
I brought out that I had heard strong indications of an up coming WFR and that if I could be included then perhaps it would benefit the team as a whole, given that there are no back fills allowed for people leaving Dell. (you want to give them the idea that if you leave on your own they can't back fill you and hence at the next WFR they will lose the headcount they are required to reduce and can't back fill you, so down an extra person).
After a few hours, my manager came back and indicated that Dell was not accepting "Volunteers" for WFR but that my situation was noted and HR had asked if I could stay until September.
I agreed and got to be part of the WFR. But I was ready to leave at the end of July if they said that there was nothing they would consider me for.
So in short if you phrase it you can sort of ask, but be prepared to leave if they say no.
Good Luck to all who want to pursue an exit. Just be careful and make sure you are prepared to follow thorough and leave (best to have another job sort of lined up if you don't have the funds to hold out for 6 months or so to find an other job.)
I have already left. Just waiting for the check. Looks like maybe February.
@1hdy+1phZ9JMM, not 100% true, but yes, Bain have had a lot to say in what's happening. Then the directors/VP/SVPs. Managers/Senior Managers are forced to do what they have to do, given a list and lay off people.
@1hdy+1phZ9JMM : "The error in what you all are talking about is that you think managers and directors still control the names on a wfr target list. Bain Capitol makes the list, period. "
So Naive. It is like saying the Head makes all the decisions, when in reality it is the Neck that turns the head to what it wants the head to see.
Directors put in the data, evidence to support the next step .
The error in what you all are talking about is that you think managers and directors still control the names on a wfr target list. Bain Capitol makes the list, period. Its been that way for 3 years now.
2 months pay BUT taking a voluntary WFR may disqualify you from collecting unemployment, if so inclined, depending on your state. Dell HR will it as a voluntary termination.
Do not share your feelings with your manager. UNLESS you are close enough for that kind of discretion.
It is better to quiet quit and job search. Quiet quitting may put you on that list which is a WIN.
If not then you are sharpening up your job hunting skills and eventually land at a better company. A WIN
2 months of pay and then a week for every year of work.
6 months of pay and then a week for every year of work ONLY for managers and up
They wont do it again. Too many people lined up for the party.
Dell only offered it in 2014 and I took it, pretty good package. I think it was 2 months of pay and then a week for every year of work. I don't think they will ever do that again though. All I can advise is to share your feelings with your manager and see if you can make the next list.