Thread regarding Citigroup Inc. / Citibank / Citi layoffs

There's a multitude of reasons why Citi has so many VP's

They're too quick to promote AVPs, and too slow to promote VPs. So most people (IC's) top out at the VP level for their career (the salary band for VP is fairly wide), unless they move into the management side. There should be a lot more AVPs in the company to have a healthy level of junior staff being trained up to become senior staff.

There are constant headcount reduction/justification exercises that limit group's from growing: no req approvals even for C11/C12s, or groups only want C13s to replace a C13 that left, so we hardly have any new graduate hires that then would grow organically in their career. And when new hires come out of the graduate program they're automatically at AVP level (and not C10/C11), and then fast-tracked to VP after 2-4 years, or they jump ship. That's too quick for a junior staff with less 5-10 years professional experience to be promoted to VP - they aren't Sr analysts yet.

And if you have no new hires, then after 5-10 years your group turns into all VPs and stays that way for years until there's a re-org or some management leaves and 1 person in the team gets promoted to become a new SVP.

I would agree that the salary band for C12's is a bit low on the high-end to be competitive for people in the 5-10 year experience range. Everything should shift right more to keep up with the industry.

@guj+1paLT64F makes an excellent point, this needed to be on the top.

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You do not need a PhD to work in senior roles in economics, finance, development, etc. or to be an SVP or direct manager. There are other higher ups w/out PhDs too. Not sure why this came up at all.

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Agree with the OP. I've also seen contractors who have the tech experience and knowledge but with no business experience that's needed to understand the context and needs of projects get converted or hired as SVP with only a Masters Degree at most and in some cases only a Bachelors Degree, and into a managerial role where they have direct reports. It will take at least 3 years to get people like this to learn the business and finance environment. And then I've also seen people with PhDs in economics, finance, the hard sciences get hired as AVPs! Backwards and bizarre. It depends on the hiring manager. Meanwhile the clueless interchangeable and braindead contractor converted to SVP has an obscene salary while the PhD Developers are lowly AVPs who will end up taking 5-10 years getting up to SVP level IF they're foolish enough to remain at Citi. Most of them end up leaving after 1 to 2 years. And according to the townhalls, Citi is going back to hiring mostly contractors instead of fulltime employees. What a sad state Citi is, a fragmented broken bank. Remember, contractors were the ones who erroneously wired $900 million to a receiver who should Not have gotten the shareholder money. These contractors have little to no business or banking knowledge or experience.

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Post ID: @1gyl+1pe8deZK

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1paLT64F

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