Thread regarding VMware layoffs

I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it's not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll, I'll, I'll set the building on fire

Agree with @ypu+1pRIyANM. 30% cuts in sales sounds imminent.

They don't know that the Internet runs on electricity

I only send emails while my car is idling in order to accelerate global warming. Let’s get it over with already.

One has to put trolls in their place.

"And no one thinks about all the extra emissions this daily commuting causes! Totally irresponsible."

No kidding. Leadership talks about being green but then Marketing people send 30MB Powerpoints as email attachments to thousands of people. They don't know that the Internet runs on electricity or how to take a minute and compress pictures and delete unneeded graphical template slides.

And no one thinks about all the extra emissions this daily commuting causes! Totally irresponsible.

Not only uniforms, but cots for sleeping overnight. That way you avoid the commute and just work late and start early.

Along with RTO, Uniforms should be made mandatory for the worker employees.

Only managers should be exempt, they can wear suits of any of the allowed colors.

Have WFH companies winning in the market place.

Hock said explicitly that it is not about whether you can be productive or whatever. he said it is about "showing up" and being dedicated to work during working hours.

It's not about profitability for Hock. It's about control.

"I think it had to do with putting the screws to the customers. After the initial departures, the sales org has seen low attrition."

Well, you either play ball or get off the court :)

Sales org will see some trimming, around 30%

That aligns with what I saw post classic Broadcom. I used to have more to do with the sales team back then and those that remained were not happy during that adjustment period. I think it had to do with putting the screws to the customers. After the initial departures, the sales org has seen low attrition.

"I meant layoffs are heavy on the sales side post acquisition"

True, but not like 90% getting fired like admin and marketing. Sales org will see some trimming, around 30% which is not crazy at all. The ones that will stay will be rewarded, but you all do you. At the end of the day you will most likely be able to get some hybrid wfh in brcm, and if you are in field sales - big probability that you will get wfh.

Sounds like a you problem.

There is flexibility to avoid peak traffic.

That IS avoiding peak traffic in this metro area.

Wanting to be paid for your commute is wild

Not at all. If I am in that car or train travelling to a work site, that is overhead that should be incurred by the employer.

I presume you never done sales in your life or been in sales in Broadcom? Salespeople do exceptionally well in Broadcom

I meant layoffs are heavy on the sales side post acquisition

Office work is good for people who enjoy:
To have a headphone on the head all the time
To work in constant noise
To work in a Call center toxic environment
To look at low quality monitors
To return back in time
etc.

"Unfortunately the sales people do not do well at bcm so you probably made the right decision. Good luck."

I presume you never done sales in your life or been in sales in Broadcom? Salespeople do exceptionally well in Broadcom, comparing to vmware or other vendors. Coming from personal experience. Literally everyone are making (big) money and are NOT putting in crazy unreasonable hours.

@bmk+1pRIyANM sorry to hear you go and wish you good luck. We have diverse teams and we respect every background, you've probably dealt with Internet trolls mostly.

It is difficult to gauge the productivity of WFH or on site. What is clear is that those who are productive are always productive regardless of location. Those unproductive remain unproductive no matter where. For sure everyone lose 1-2 hours for daily commute. Remember if you want to be slack, there are hundreds of ways to do it even in campus. A colleague of mine slept in his van (tinted window) in the garage from 1-2pm

You don't need a study for this. Just have WFH companies buying out work in office companies. Have WFH companies winning in the market place. Then, wallstreet will take care of the rest.

I've worked out of my home since the late 90s (for several major

IT vendors.) As an individual contributor in Sales, there has been ZERO reason for me to report to an office when I am paid to be in front of customers

HT agrees with you and said as much at the coffee talk.

The high performers will excel at home or the office. But the majority of people are not high performers and home has significant distractions for the majority.

Unfortunately the sales people do not do well at bcm so you probably made the right decision. Good luck.

I've worked out of my home since the late 90s (for several major
IT vendors.) As an individual contributor in Sales, there has been ZERO reason for me to report to an office when I am paid to be in front of customers and partners (many of whom are located FAR from a local office.) In my last job at VMware, the partners I supported were on another continent, and I was on Zoom calls at 7:00 am or 8:00 P.M. I'll be DAMNED if I was going to drive an hour each way to punch a time clock and sit in a windowless cubicle with people unrelated to my role just to emulate an 18th century workhouse model.

And if some of the homophobic misogynistic bigots who have been posting here represent the mindset of a typical Broadcom employee, I am doubly convinced that I made the right decision to decline the offer.

People issuing the checks dictate the terms of employment. Don't the like the terms, find a new employer. Just be thankful they aren't asking you to put on a suit and tie before coming into the office 5 days a week.

After I started working from home I was happier and I'd get to work right away instead of driving for over an hour. In the Bay Area there is no way to lessen the commute time. Rush hour is 4 hours long each time. People start at 5am and go until 7pm.

"And this is why there is stacked ranking. It will be noticed, you will be given a rank 3 and terminated."

It never was noticed over years. I'm a senior person and get my work done fast. You junior people need four times what it takes me to get a job done.

What I do mind is 2 unpaid hours a day (plus travel expense).

Sounds like a you problem.

There is flexibility to avoid peak traffic.

Wanting to be paid for your commute is wild.

“Hock said explicitly that it is not about whether you can be productive or whatever. he said it is about "showing up" and being dedicated to work during working hours instead of constantly switching between work and personal stuff.“

Even if we don’t work in the office and instead do personal things???

This clearly is Hock’s ego and nothing else

It is a mindset, I doubt it is totally about the lack of distraction. People don't BS in the office? This about being an a-hole and control freak that wants you to work like it's the 70's. You people saying "pre-covid blah blah blah" have been at BC too long. You do realize WFH has been around for 15+ years right? If this wasn't about control, then it would be hybrid with a day or two WFH each week.

I'd be on social media or reading up on things that I was interested in. I'd go for a walk around the campus.

And this is why there is stacked ranking. It will be noticed, you will be given a rank 3 and terminated.

Valuing working in the office is an obsolete mind set. I did lots of personal stuff in the office. I'd be on social media or reading up on things that I was interested in. I'd go for a walk around the campus. I'd have coffee with colleagues. I'd leave early to make up for the commute.

Valuing working in the office is an obsolete mind set. I did lots of personal stuff in the office. I'd be on social media or reading up on things that I was interested in. I'd go for a walk around the campus. I'd have coffee with colleagues. I'd leave early.

Hock said explicitly that it is not about whether you can be productive or whatever. he said it is about "showing up" and being dedicated to work during working hours instead of constantly switching between work and personal stuff.

I honestly don't mind the office.

What I do mind is 2 unpaid hours a day (plus travel expense). Pay me 25% more, and I will gladly go back.

Talk to Hock. Most people here are favorable towards WFH.

Its more basic then that. This boils down to an old man who has done things the same way and thinks their way is the only way.

A few posts below:
I've been remote for years and combine it with caring for my children and sick father.

This is the reason.